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Front Line Maps - See Below

These maps were created by Goran Wickstrom, one of the WitE testers. The first shows historical front lines by date during the Operation Blue scenario, and the second shows the front lines during 1941. You can use these to judge your progress when playing WitE. Thanks to Goran for providing these.



Below city name blue dates = Axis taken
red dates = Soviet taken.

Hi!
A new version of the 12 zoom4 TGA maps with dates,frontlines and names.
Extended and with less errors.
Its uploaded to the server.
Makes it easier to compare and follow the historical development
In North and Mitte up to march/april -42 and in South up to jan/feb -43.
Dates below towns/cities blue = German occupation. Red = Soviet (re-) occupation.
Mostly German sources. Above all from German " Lagekarten" 1: 2 500 000.
Goran

1941 Front Lines by date

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It still amazes me that the Germans got as far as they did, over the amount of territory they had to cover.

You have got to just love that map........

ORIGINAL: Tophat1812

You have got to just love that map........

especially with the proper dates

Cool map, and I think I'm missing something so stupid question coming:

On the final big map what year are the lines for and what do the colors mean? Some legend would be great. Thanks.

ORIGINAL: sillyflower

ORIGINAL: Tophat1812

You have got to just love that map........

especially with the proper dates

We colonials are still doing our bit to serve the needs of the Empire.........

That map just boggles the mind[X(] It makes the german advance towards Grozny seem like a very long one (which it was)

ORIGINAL: jjdenver

Cool map, and I think I'm missing something so stupid question coming:

On the final big map what year are the lines for and what do the colors mean? Some legend would be great. Thanks.

Hi!
Its not a stupid question. The map is a bit cluttered. Its difficult to avoid that when you want to give a lot of data in a small map.
It will be easier to read it if you think forwards (German view) from the startline 22/6 and then think of it as a continous advance
in steps up to a halt in nov-dec-41.(red line 25 nov and yellow line 5 dec.)
Then some lines backwards (blue)( 7 jan,31 jan and 31 march-42.)
This followed by the German summer advance in -42 ( areas in front of Stalingrad and in the Caucasus)
and the Soviet counterattack 19 nov-42. Blue retake line 30 nov-42.
In the north lines are up to 31 march-42 and in the south up to 20 jan-43.
Lines in the same colour could mostly, with approximately the same date, be followed from north to south.
Goran

Really great Map. Nice , clean , easy to see. Well done. The best in a wargame to date IMO.

could you implement the historic front line display in the game itself at specific time-points(dates) so the player could compare progress?

another comparison could show combat losses (historic/play tested) at that select date.

Well thats about 6 months old, we testers liked the that he did it. As far as lines to see how your doing history wise, it was shot down. I tried that already. I guess just enjoy what we have....

Is this map available without the front lines, to use as a planning map. I know a map has been posted with names in German, but I prefer the Russian place names. [:)]

ORIGINAL: Rasputitsa

Is this map available without the front lines, to use as a planning map. I know a map has been posted with names in German, but I prefer the Russian place names. [:)]

Hi!
I am sorry. I dont have the map with names and no frontlines.

But;
http://english.mapywig.org/news.php

On that site you have a lot of interesting maps.
Go to the Russian maps-at the bottom you can download a Soviet map in scale 1: 2,5 Milj
that could be used as a planning map with Russian names.

Goran

Hi!
If you go to my site www.mannaberg.se
you can download zoom4.zip
and put it into the game. Its 12 vga-files with dates and frontlines.
Then you can play on the historical frontline map
or go to it and compare with historical situation at wished time.
Please dont download anything else from the site while
its resources are very limited.I dont want it put down.
Goran

goranw

You can set up a free account at www.mediafire.com to distribute files like yours and not worry about taking the hit on your own resources. All you do is upload the file and copy the download link to paste into your post for others to access it. Individual files up to 100 MBytes are allowed and if you know what you are doing with WinZip or WinRar, you can actually break up huge files (larger than 100 MBytes) into several smaller (less than 100 MBytes) as needed to meet the 100 MByte limit. Users just download all the smaller segments. These will automatically assemble into the original (larger than 100 MByte file).

Hi!
Thanks for your tip but in the first hand I will se if my site can "manage" this.
My site has been a forum for up/down loading war maps for years in connection with ww2 maps at armchairgeneral.com but because of
WitE it has had a sleeping period.
Goran