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If i put a DMS in a bombardment TF, will give good pertection to this TF if i go into a mine field that is not spotted but i know its there ?

It wouldn't hurt right?  Unless the new bombard range settings can sometime negate the effects of mines.

yes but i dont want it to hurt...

i was in hope the mine sweeper would keep the TF safe but it seems its not the case after a little testing but it does help.

ORIGINAL: tigercub

i was in hope the mine sweeper would keep the TF safe but it seems its not the case after a little testing but it does help.

Tiger if you can give me a few minutes, I have a Bombardment Task Force at Colombo with a half dozen of DMS's - Let me go ahead and do a pair of tests.

Ok here's what I got, I have 2 Bombardment groups for the Japanese, One is Fast, the other is Slow - I put a few DMS's in the bombardment group Slow for now. Here are the results of bombarding Colombo.
So what I gather is, the DMS's are pretty much scrapgoat, meaning while they are busy clearing mines, they get shot up by the coastal batteries, however the Battleships DO not go in first.

So yeah, you want to stick those mine sweepers in the Bombardment groups, because in this test I only had a single Destroyer hit by a mine.


TF 234 encounters mine field at Colombo (29,48) - Coastal Guns Fire Back!

58 Coastal gun shots fired in defense.

Japanese Ships
DMS W-8, Shell hits 6, heavy fires, heavy damage
DMS W-7, Shell hits 5, heavy fires, heavy damage
DMS W-6, Shell hits 4, heavy fires, heavy damage
DMS W-5, Shell hits 5, heavy fires, heavy damage
DMS W-3, Shell hits 4, heavy fires, heavy damage
DMS W-2, Shell hits 5, heavy fires, heavy damage
DMS W-1, Shell hits 3, heavy fires, heavy damage



DMS W-8 firing at Colombo Fortress
Colombo Fortress firing at DMS W-8
DMS W-7 firing at Colombo Fortress
Colombo Fortress firing at DMS W-7
Colombo Fortress firing at DMS W-6
DMS W-6 firing at Colombo Fortress
DMS W-5 firing at Colombo Fortress
Colombo Fortress firing at DMS W-5
Colombo Fortress firing at DMS W-3
DMS W-3 firing at Colombo Fortress
Colombo Fortress firing at DMS W-2
DMS W-1 firing at Colombo Fortress
Colombo Fortress firing at DMS W-1
49 mines cleared

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Night Naval bombardment of Colombo at 29,48 - Coastal Guns Fire Back!

Allied aircraft
no flights

Allied aircraft losses
Hurricane IIa Trop: 1 destroyed on ground
Hurricane IIb Trop: 2 destroyed on ground

48 Coastal gun shots fired in defense.

Japanese Ships
BB Musashi
BB Yamato, Shell hits 2
BB Kirishima
BB Hiei
BB Haruna, Shell hits 2
BB Kongo
CA Tokiwa
CA Takao
CL Kitakami

Allied Ships
CL Capetown, Shell hits 2, heavy fires
CLAA Van Heemskerck, Shell hits 4, on fire, heavy damage
DD Vendetta, Shell hits 2, on fire, heavy damage
CL Glasgow, Shell hits 3, heavy fires
CL Enterprise, Shell hits 1
AKV Athene, Shell hits 1
CA Exeter, Shell hits 2, on fire


Allied ground losses:
483 casualties reported
Squads: 1 destroyed, 3 disabled
Non Combat: 20 destroyed, 55 disabled
Engineers: 1 destroyed, 1 disabled
Guns lost 13 (8 destroyed, 5 disabled)
Vehicles lost 3 (1 destroyed, 2 disabled)


Light Industry hits 2
Resources hits 1
Manpower hits 1
Fires 294
Airbase hits 18
Airbase supply hits 8
Runway hits 155
Port hits 22
Port fuel hits 1
Port supply hits 1

E13A1 Jake acting as spotter for BB Musashi
BB Musashi firing at Colombo
E13A1 Jake acting as spotter for BB Yamato
BB Yamato firing at Colombo Fortress
Colombo Fortress firing at BB Yamato
BB Kirishima firing at Colombo
BB Hiei firing at Colombo Fortress
Colombo Fortress firing at BB Hiei
Colombo Fortress firing at BB Haruna
BB Haruna firing at Colombo Fortress
BB Kongo firing at Colombo
CA Tokiwa firing at Colombo
CA Takao firing at Colombo
CL Kitakami firing at Colombo Fortress
Colombo Fortress firing at CL Kitakami


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Night Naval bombardment of Colombo at 29,48 - Coastal Guns Fire Back!

Allied aircraft
no flights

Allied aircraft losses
Hurricane IIa Trop: 3 destroyed on ground
Hurricane IIb Trop: 2 destroyed on ground

59 Coastal gun shots fired in defense.

Japanese Ships
BB Hyuga
BB Ise
BB Yamashiro
BB Fuso, Shell hits 3
BB Mutsu, Shell hits 4
BB Nagato
CL Kuma, Shell hits 1

Allied Ships
CA Exeter, Shell hits 3, heavy fires
CL Glasgow, Shell hits 4, heavy fires, heavy damage
CLAA Van Heemskerck, Shell hits 2, on fire, heavy damage
CL Enterprise, Shell hits 4
AKV Athene, Shell hits 2, on fire


Allied ground losses:
223 casualties reported
Squads: 1 destroyed, 2 disabled
Non Combat: 11 destroyed, 34 disabled
Engineers: 0 destroyed, 0 disabled
Guns lost 18 (7 destroyed, 11 disabled)
Vehicles lost 12 (3 destroyed, 9 disabled)


Resources hits 1
Repair Shipyard hits 1
Fires 286
Airbase hits 11
Airbase supply hits 7
Runway hits 107
Port hits 5

BB Hyuga firing at Colombo
BB Ise firing at Colombo
BB Yamashiro firing at Colombo
BB Fuso firing at Colombo Fortress
Colombo Fortress firing at BB Fuso
BB Mutsu firing at Colombo Fortress
Colombo Fortress firing at BB Mutsu
BB Nagato firing at Colombo
CL Kuma firing at Colombo Fortress
Colombo Fortress firing at CL Kuma


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its about the same as my test they help but its not 100% more like 50% ....i wanted to know because i am going to bombard and i know there is a mine field range will help to keep away from them.

How do you get your floatplanes to spot? I figured i had to set them on night mission and recon, then i selected the base to bombard. It isn't working, so i am doing something wrong. Can you tell me what the settings should be?

d0mbo.

ORIGINAL: d0mbo

How do you get your floatplanes to spot? I figured i had to set them on night mission and recon, then i selected the base to bombard. It isn't working, so i am doing something wrong. Can you tell me what the settings should be?

d0mbo.

First if your bombardments are at night then you have to have every float plane from the battleships to recon at night, 6,000 ft and the base chosen to be bombarded. Problem is if you bombard at day, it won't work. I also notice if any float planes are in maintenance then you have a chance they won't fly.

I wish there was a way to set every float in the task force to fly recon at night, however you have to do every float plane individually, so make sure you set them.