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Why the game uses the term "operational group"

Posted: Sat Oct 23, 2010 2:01 pm
by borsook79
The game calls Polish armies "operational groups", trouble is that being Polish I know very well that in fact they were called "armies". Why the different name?

RE: Why the game uses the term "operational group"

Posted: Sun Oct 24, 2010 12:57 am
by TAIL GUNNER
ORIGINAL: Borsook

The game calls Polish armies "operational groups", trouble is that being Polish I know very well that in fact they were called "armies". Why the different name?

Maybe Army Group is a better name.....like the German AG North, South, e.g.

RE: Why the game uses the term "operational group"

Posted: Sun Oct 24, 2010 12:49 pm
by borsook79
ORIGINAL: Juggalo

ORIGINAL: Borsook

The game calls Polish armies "operational groups", trouble is that being Polish I know very well that in fact they were called "armies". Why the different name?

Maybe Army Group is a better name.....like the German AG North, South, e.g.
I'm not saying that any of the terms does not fit, I'm saying that in 1939 they were called "armies". I know that they do not exactly fit the composition of an army in other countries, but this is what we had.

RE: Why the game uses the term "operational group"

Posted: Sun Oct 24, 2010 1:29 pm
by gwgardner
One source at

http://ww2db.com/battle_spec.php?battle_id=28

uses both terms, depending on which elements of the Polish forces one is talking about.

"On paper, Poland’s full mobilized army would have numbered about 2.5 million. Due to allied pressure and mismanagement, however, only about 600,000 Polish troops were in place to meet the German invasion on September 1, 1939. These forces were organized into 7 armies and 5 independent operational groups."

RE: Why the game uses the term "operational group"

Posted: Sun Oct 24, 2010 3:36 pm
by borsook79
ORIGINAL: gwgardner

One source at

http://ww2db.com/battle_spec.php?battle_id=28

uses both terms, depending on which elements of the Polish forces one is talking about.

"On paper, Poland’s full mobilized army would have numbered about 2.5 million. Due to allied pressure and mismanagement, however, only about 600,000 Polish troops were in place to meet the German invasion on September 1, 1939. These forces were organized into 7 armies and 5 independent operational groups."
The trouble is that official, Polish names were for the main armies were e.g. "Armia Poznań" they were called "operational groups" as a category but not in their names. In Polish military terminology "operational group" can mean everything, be it an army, a single division etc, but usually it was used to talk about about smaller independent and very often ad hoc created field units.