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Port size comparison

Posted: Mon Oct 25, 2010 11:13 am
by Buck Beach
I came across this description of Darwin's port early 1942, in the below linked pdf.

"At that time Port Darwin, although an "anchor to
windward", was more of a name on the map than a
fueling station for the fleet. Surrounded by mango
swamps and having a temperature of 100 to 110 de
grees, it was separated from the rest of Australia by
the Great Australian Desert. An anchorage, with a
warehouse and an air field, it had but few oil storage
tanks—which contained British naval oil supplies—
and only one pier. The pier could not berth more
than two ships at a time and was in almost constant
use by freighters unloading supplies of food and equip
ment from south and southwest Australia."


What should this type of port be sized at for us mod freaks? Any thoughts?

https://babel.hathitrust.org/cgi/pt?seq ... u=1&num=15

Buck

RE: Port size comparison

Posted: Mon Oct 25, 2010 12:16 pm
by GaryChildress
Maybe a 3 or 4? [X(]

RE: Port size comparison

Posted: Mon Oct 25, 2010 1:22 pm
by Shark7
ORIGINAL: Gary Childress

Maybe a 3 or 4? [X(]

I'd say a 1 or 2 at most. Sounds like it was little more than a quick stop-over on the way to bigger and better places.

RE: Port size comparison

Posted: Mon Oct 25, 2010 1:28 pm
by herwin
ORIGINAL: Shark7

ORIGINAL: Gary Childress

Maybe a 3 or 4? [X(]

I'd say a 1 or 2 at most. Sounds like it was little more than a quick stop-over on the way to bigger and better places.

Sounds like Neah Bay in 1968. Prince Rupert, Sitka, Juneau, and Skagway were all about that size.

RE: Port size comparison

Posted: Mon Oct 25, 2010 2:24 pm
by witpqs
Buck are you talking about starting size or potential size?

RE: Port size comparison

Posted: Mon Oct 25, 2010 2:37 pm
by Buck Beach
Starting size, based upon the information provided. Also some general info as to what each level of port size represents.

Buck

RE: Port size comparison

Posted: Mon Oct 25, 2010 5:13 pm
by JWE
ORIGINAL: Buck Beach
Starting size, based upon the information provided. Also some general info as to what each level of port size represents.

Buck
Start at port-2. Get general info from manual Table 9.3.3 Port Size, and look at tonnage that can be docked. Port 1 can dock 6,000 tons. That's only 1 C1/C2 sized ship (or a couple more if they are dinky). Port 2 can dock 12,000 tons, so that's 2 C1s/C2s (or a couple more if dinky). And so on.

Remember, port size is the size of facilities, not the size of the harbor. Harbor can be HUGE, but with only 1 dock, it's a 1 or a 2. Port size isn't all that grainy a parameter, so use a judicious rule of reason (i.e., it's quite fair to pull it out of the brown place).

Ciao. J

RE: Port size comparison

Posted: Mon Oct 25, 2010 7:43 pm
by Buck Beach
Thanks JWE