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Static units-when to use and waht are the benefits
Posted: Wed Jan 05, 2011 9:10 pm
by rtb1017
Static units-when to use and waht are the benefits
RE: Static units-when to use and waht are the benefits
Posted: Wed Jan 05, 2011 9:18 pm
by Gandalf
section 7.5.4 Static Combat Units (pg 140 of the E-Book) manual) gives a good summary.
RE: Static units-when to use and waht are the benefits
Posted: Wed Jan 05, 2011 10:43 pm
by CarnageINC
So far I've been using them if I'm hurting for trucks for supplies. Where is a hard question. If is summer and you have a quite front say the north or so I would put them in static. If its winter I would only use them if you have a awesome defensive fortification line and know you can hold the line. Otherwise you'll problematic loose them to pocketing.
RE: Static units-when to use and waht are the benefits
Posted: Thu Jan 06, 2011 6:41 pm
by IdahoNYer
CarnageINC - I think determining that point that you need those trucks is also tough. When are you hurting so much that you need to send units to static to gain the trucks? What is the "tipping point"? Do your operational needs outweigh your logistical needs? For instance, in 8/41 my motor pool looks bleak - 176k(144k) is it? Can I afford to halt a bit to recoup some trucks? I certainly don't want to have units go to static mode, right?
RE: Static units-when to use and waht are the benefits
Posted: Thu Jan 06, 2011 7:42 pm
by CarnageINC
I've only played with static units a bit. My motor pool is generally in good shape, I try not to move my HQ's around to much if possible. My logistical needs come first, that effects the army as a whole before a regional operation need. I've never motorized a infantry division for fear of damaging my overall motor pool. I'm not a expert in this area, I'm just giving my general impressions of what I've done so far.
RE: Static units-when to use and waht are the benefits
Posted: Thu Jan 06, 2011 7:44 pm
by Mike Parker
I static Security divisions holding backwater cities. Maybe that's obvious.. maybe its not so obvious because its dumb

but I do it anyway.
RE: Static units-when to use and waht are the benefits
Posted: Thu Jan 06, 2011 7:47 pm
by CarnageINC
ORIGINAL: Mike Parker
I static Security divisions holding backwater cities. Maybe that's obvious.. maybe its not so obvious because its dumb

but I do it anyway.
I tend to keep these guys mobile for chasing down any partisans that may pop up near by.
RE: Static units-when to use and waht are the benefits
Posted: Thu Jan 06, 2011 7:50 pm
by Mike Parker
I tend to keep these guys mobile for chasing down any partisans that may pop up near by.
Don't you need to keep the city garrisoned anyway while your chasing down partisans? Otherwise your just fueling more partisan activations. And I seem to have more cities to guard than sec divisions anyway sooo.
RE: Static units-when to use and waht are the benefits
Posted: Thu Jan 06, 2011 8:15 pm
by bwheatley
ORIGINAL: IdahoNYer
CarnageINC - I think determining that point that you need those trucks is also tough. When are you hurting so much that you need to send units to static to gain the trucks? What is the "tipping point"? Do your operational needs outweigh your logistical needs? For instance, in 8/41 my motor pool looks bleak - 176k(144k) is it? Can I afford to halt a bit to recoup some trucks? I certainly don't want to have units go to static mode, right?
You have about 32k trucks to spare you're fine for now.

you only need 144k for 100% and you have 176k
RE: Static units-when to use and waht are the benefits
Posted: Thu Jan 06, 2011 8:18 pm
by CarnageINC
ORIGINAL: Mike Parker
I tend to keep these guys mobile for chasing down any partisans that may pop up near by.
Don't you need to keep the city garrisoned anyway while your chasing down partisans? Otherwise your just fueling more partisan activations. And I seem to have more cities to guard than sec divisions anyway sooo.
I won't go beyond half their movement, always having enough to make it back. I tend to put Romanians and Bulgarians in security in south and move everything for German security north while keeping the 2 SS mobile brigades as fire brigades in the north. I have no trouble putting out fires in either area.
RE: Static units-when to use and waht are the benefits
Posted: Thu Jan 06, 2011 8:27 pm
by rtb1017
ORIGINAL: bwheatley
ORIGINAL: IdahoNYer
CarnageINC - I think determining that point that you need those trucks is also tough. When are you hurting so much that you need to send units to static to gain the trucks? What is the "tipping point"? Do your operational needs outweigh your logistical needs? For instance, in 8/41 my motor pool looks bleak - 176k(144k) is it? Can I afford to halt a bit to recoup some trucks? I certainly don't want to have units go to static mode, right?
You have about 32k trucks to spare you're fine for now.

you only need 144k for 100% and you have 176k
This answers a question that I have about the numbers you see in the trucks. So the number in para is waht you need (100%) and the number before that is what you have so you want to have a number that is larger than the one in the para. Sorry for the Noob question and not taking time to dig around the manual for the answer.
RE: Static units-when to use and waht are the benefits
Posted: Thu Jan 06, 2011 9:01 pm
by CarnageINC
ORIGINAL: rtb1017
ORIGINAL: bwheatley
ORIGINAL: IdahoNYer
CarnageINC - I think determining that point that you need those trucks is also tough. When are you hurting so much that you need to send units to static to gain the trucks? What is the "tipping point"? Do your operational needs outweigh your logistical needs? For instance, in 8/41 my motor pool looks bleak - 176k(144k) is it? Can I afford to halt a bit to recoup some trucks? I certainly don't want to have units go to static mode, right?
You have about 32k trucks to spare you're fine for now.

you only need 144k for 100% and you have 176k
This answers a question that I have about the numbers you see in the trucks. So the number in para is waht you need (100%) and the number before that is what you have so you want to have a number that is larger than the one in the para. Sorry for the Noob question and not taking time to dig around the manual for the answer.
Correct sir.
RE: Static units-when to use and waht are the benefits
Posted: Thu Jan 06, 2011 9:03 pm
by rtb1017
ORIGINAL: CarnageINC
ORIGINAL: rtb1017
ORIGINAL: bwheatley
You have about 32k trucks to spare you're fine for now.

you only need 144k for 100% and you have 176k
This answers a question that I have about the numbers you see in the trucks. So the number in para is waht you need (100%) and the number before that is what you have so you want to have a number that is larger than the one in the para. Sorry for the Noob question and not taking time to dig around the manual for the answer.
Correct sir.
MY GOD! I had it backwards until today. [:@]
RE: Static units-when to use and waht are the benefits
Posted: Thu Jan 06, 2011 9:07 pm
by IdahoNYer
Wow! I had it backwards too! I thought the (###) was what I was short!!
Thanks guys! This info will help keep the panzers rolling!