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Indian garrison
Posted: Fri Jan 07, 2011 3:49 pm
by rominet
Hi
i have a question concerning ground combat in Burma and AV ratio between jap and allies in this region.
I have more than 10 jap divisions plus other auxiliary troops.
We are in january 43, i can't stop the allied offensive in Burma: so, i am surprised.
To my opinion, British have too many troops in this area and too early in the war.
It seems allies don't have to garrison India at all. Is it normal?
That could explain why there are so many allied troops in Burma.
My opponent said NO; he told me that the CHS OOB in India takes already into account of Indian garrison and so every ground reinforcements is available for offensive.
RE: Indian garrison
Posted: Fri Jan 07, 2011 7:57 pm
by emek
Just to add to this the forces Rominet mentioned consist of:
1) All British Malaya Army
2) Part of Philippine army
3) Part of Dutch forces
4) Chinese forces originally assigned to South East command
5) British forces
6) Indian forces except those doing garrison duties.
Notes:
India army had at his peak 2.5 million soldiers. Some of them served abroad but most stayed in India.
All forces except Chinese have high experience fighting non stop during 1942.
RE: Indian garrison
Posted: Fri Jan 07, 2011 8:48 pm
by rominet
ORIGINAL: emek
Just to add to this the forces Rominet mentioned consist of:
1) All British Malaya Army
2) Part of Philippine army
3) Part of Dutch forces
4) Chinese forces originally assigned to South East command
5) British forces
6) Indian forces except those doing garrison duties.
Notes:
India army had at his peak 2.5 million soldiers. Some of them served abroad but most stayed in India.
All forces except Chinese have high experience fighting non stop during 1942.
Yes ,yes, no problem with the fact that they are more than historic army in front of me.
My question is only:
is it normal that the allied player do not have to garrison India at all as the jap has to do it in Manchouria?
RE: Indian garrison
Posted: Fri Jan 07, 2011 9:48 pm
by BPRE
There are no requirements for garrisons in India in WitP but there is in WitP-AE.
If it's already taken care of I can't say. The units in the OOB are often split into their components at start of WitP-AE so it's difficult to compare directly.
I'm not surprised that you have problems in Burma with all those forces on the British side. It's not exactly historical.
Regards
BPRE
RE: Indian garrison
Posted: Sat Jan 08, 2011 1:38 pm
by gladiatt
ORIGINAL: emek
Just to add to this the forces Rominet mentioned consist of:
1) All British Malaya Army
2) Part of Philippine army
3) Part of Dutch forces
4) Chinese forces originally assigned to South East command
5) British forces
6) Indian forces except those doing garrison duties.
Notes:
India army had at his peak 2.5 million soldiers. Some of them served abroad but most stayed in India.
All forces except Chinese have high experience fighting non stop during 1942.
Just out of curiosity : do you manage to sustain the supply requirement of your allied troops in Burma ? My main trouble (it's a surprise for no one) is that no road or railway can bring supply from India. I am always scarce for my troops.
RE: Indian garrison
Posted: Sat Jan 08, 2011 8:11 pm
by Alfred
rominet,
If your opponet has his entire Allied army on the Burma frontline (including units which you should never have allowed to survive in any meaningful manner ie Dutch, Filipino and Malaya), then think outside of the circle and launch an invasion behind the lines and cut off his flow of supplies. Most players who rely upon creating a monster stack leave very little behind to guard their rear. They rely upon their opponents engaging on frontal tactics rather than using maneouvring.
Alfred
RE: Indian garrison
Posted: Sun Jan 09, 2011 10:26 am
by emek
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Just out of curiosity: do you manage to sustain the supply requirement of your allied troops in Burma ? My main trouble (it's a surprise for no one) is that no road or railway can bring supply from India. I am always scarce for my troops.
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It is Off Topic It so i would say it is difficult but possible to have decent supply level from time to time. This is also applicable to Rominet as he has the same problem. His last supply convoy left Rangoon many months ago.
Back to original question. Should i keep garrison in India in WITP in your opinion?
List of Indian Army Brigades in World War II 120 infantry brigades which most of them does not exist in WITP.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_In ... rld_War_II
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If your opponent has his entire Allied army on the Burma frontline (including units which you should never have allowed to survive in any meaningful manner ie Dutch, Filipino and Malaya), then think outside of the circle and launch an invasion behind the lines and cut off his flow of supplies. Most players who rely upon creating a monster stack leave very little behind to guard their rear. They rely upon their opponents engaging on frontal tactics rather than using maneuvering.
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Alfred - I would love to see him trying
RE: Indian garrison
Posted: Sun Jan 09, 2011 6:03 pm
by tocaff
If you need to get supply into a base then move an HQ unit there and it'll draw supply. Of course rail lines are best, roads good, tracks fair and in the bush you starve.