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REferring to device 1161 ...

Accuracy on this gun is 25%, about 6x the accuracy of similar weapons. Just curious, yes this is a famous weapon ... but does this seem correct?

As I understand it accuracy is a combination of both to-hit and ROF.

Asking experts here as I am not.

Thanks.

It doesn't seem correct to me either. It looks like the range was entered by mistake and it should probably be a 4 for ROF.

If memory serves me correctly, the 155 gun was an extremely accurate weapon. Used for counter battery fire at Corp or Division level, I don't remember which.

ORIGINAL: oldman45

If memory serves me correctly, the 155 gun was an extremely accurate weapon. Used for counter battery fire at Corp or Division level, I don't remember which.

Corps. Division had 155 howitzers and a couple types of 105 howitzers.

So far my experience (and I am only in '42) is that these weapons are definately accurate and they are used by Regiments as well. They eat fast transports and especially slow moving transports for breakfast, lunch and diner. Whether this is or is not accurate I leave to the crowd to be decided. I definately fear them.
 
 
 
 

Editor accuracy probably doesn't equal accuracy in real life. As you say, things like ROF are rolled into it as well and only Grigsby and the devs know what else, so it's rather pointless for us to be discussing it I think.

While the "device" is a single unit, is it possible it was boosted to simulate the very often used "Time On Target" type firing this gun was used for?

ORIGINAL: Smeulders

Editor accuracy probably doesn't equal accuracy in real life. As you say, things like ROF are rolled into it as well and only Grigsby and the devs know what else, so it's rather pointless for us to be discussing it I think.

Exactly why I have brought it up here ....

ORIGINAL: Herrbear

It doesn't seem correct to me either. It looks like the range was entered by mistake and it should probably be a 4 for ROF.

My concern. It does look like an oops. Accuracy might want to be 6 - 8 ... that would be double what most other guns are in the game ...

And I too have found these to be REALLY deadly. To me beyond what they really were.

ORIGINAL: d0mbo

So far my experience (and I am only in '42) is that these weapons are definately accurate and they are used by Regiments as well. They eat fast transports and especially slow moving transports for breakfast, lunch and diner. Whether this is or is not accurate I leave to the crowd to be decided. I definately fear them.

The 155mm Gun was the Army's chosen weapon for Coast Defense..., which might have something to do with the numbers. When used in this role, the units had specially designed mobile mountings, radar fire direction, and naval-style fire control. And they were quite effective. Most Army artillery (on both sides) used in this fashion was simply regular artillery which happened to be on the coast..., but the "Long Toms" could actually function as honest-to-God Coast Artillery.

ORIGINAL: mike scholl 1


The 155mm Gun was the Army's chosen weapon for Coast Defense..., which might have something to do with the numbers. When used in this role, the units had specially designed mobile mountings, radar fire direction, and naval-style fire control.

Now that would explain things ... I wonder if accuracy comes into play for ground combat? Maybe not, and thus allows the devs to use it for CD only.

Interesting.

I've posted a link to this in the ground thread as well. Maybe Andy will comment.

Was the Long Tom an adaptation of a naval gun?

ORIGINAL: Ranger5355

Was the Long Tom an adaptation of a naval gun?

It descended from a heavy gun used in the French Army.

It descended from a heavy gun used in the French Army.

This gun was the 155mm GPF (Grande Puissance Filloux). More details here : http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Canon_de_155mm_GPF

Gilbert

ORIGINAL: Gilbert

It descended from a heavy gun used in the French Army.

This gun was the 155mm GPF (Grande Puissance Filloux). More details here : http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Canon_de_155mm_GPF

Gilbert

Interesting, thanks!

Interesting. I love arcane stuff like this [:)]

ORIGINAL: stuman

Interesting. I love acane stuff like this [:)]

The spelling came through garbled. Do you mean arcane or inane? [;)]

ORIGINAL: Gilbert

It descended from a heavy gun used in the French Army.

This gun was the 155mm GPF (Grande Puissance Filloux). More details here : http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Canon_de_155mm_GPF

Gilbert

The gun was deadly accurate at around 2000 yards... the USAA used them on the Siegfried Line where they would park a gun a 2000 yards and pick off concrete bunkers with a single shot. They are also employed in attacking one German city in a similar fashion (??Aachen), and were used with such effectiveness that the German commander protested and demanded that they be made illegal as a weapon of war... the US commanders just laughed at him.

ORIGINAL: herwin

ORIGINAL: stuman

Interesting. I love acane stuff like this [:)]

The spelling came through garbled. Do you mean arcane or inane? [;)]

Ha, well I meant arcane, but inane may apply as well [:)]

ORIGINAL: rtrapasso

ORIGINAL: Gilbert

It descended from a heavy gun used in the French Army.

This gun was the 155mm GPF (Grande Puissance Filloux). More details here : http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Canon_de_155mm_GPF

Gilbert

The gun was deadly accurate at around 2000 yards... the USAA used them on the Siegfried Line where they would park a gun a 2000 yards and pick off concrete bunkers with a single shot. They are also employed in attacking one German city in a similar fashion (??Aachen), and were used with such effectiveness that the German commander protested and demanded that they be made illegal as a weapon of war... the US commanders just laughed at him.

He cried that using it in that fashion was gamey! [:D]

THAT is a good weapon! [8D]

If you want a really big gun, try this one: http://www.vincelewis.net/dora.html