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Guys,

I have not seen a post on this, so here goes.

Is there something that has been changed with the latest beta(s) regarding scrapping and pools when the production run ends? I have noticed this with aircraft especially with beta 2. Consider the IL-2M (as attached). Its production run ended some months ago and the factories switched over to the IL-2M3. According to the production screen some 3,832 were built. Of that total, 122 were lost in combat (training?) and 116 are with the 24 units that are using that type. Thus there should be 3,594 in the pool, not 3.

The IL-2 is even worse as 106 units are still using the airframes and the pools were emptied. As I am playing as Soviets, this essentially destroys the reserve pools every time something upgrades, suddenly you have no planes as the production of the new type kicks in.

Current save to follow.

Thanks

save.

Have you noticed when did it happen?

Pavel,

No I did not notice when it started, just every now and then I move some air units and stumbled upon this. I have been using this as a test game to experiment on ground combat, and have for the most part been ignoring the air aspect. That will be the target of my second test game, a more complete integration of the system. By the way, I have done nothing with partisans either, so there is still much to learn.

I have a save going back to turn 60, August 1942. I believe the IL-2's converted to IL-2M's in October, so I will run a dozen or so turns a see if I can isolate when the pools fall apart. It seems to me that it has to be involved with factories upgrading.

I will report back later when I finish the run.

Thanks

Pavel,

Ran to turn 82. I watched IL-2 who's factories upgrade to IL-2M and Yak-1 which upgrade to Yak-1B. Both upgrades occurred properly during the October 1942 turn.

The pools behaved correctly, with the numbers up and down slightly due to losses and air group refitting to the new models.

This lasted until turn 76. Starting turn 77, those two pools began to decline. By turn 82, all the Yak-1's were gone, 2158 to 0, and the IL-2's went from 6237 to 2480. In five or six turns, they will all be gone.

Am attaching Turn 76.

Turn 77

Turn 78.

If have up to 82, if you need any more.

Thanks

Thanks, Rob. I'll take a look.