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We really need this. If you use random weather, we really need a next turn forecast so you have an idea of how far to stick your neck out. Especially when mud arrives and basically chokes the entire map.

Because due to the automatic destruction of any defense ability once they get cut off combined with the total lack of offensive CV units have due to mud there is basically no chance for rescue to arrive. Or that they will survive until the next turn.

How good was weather forecasting in the 40's?

IIRC they are only 80% accurate nowadays

Manstein had some things to say about the weather forecasts in the winter of 1939-1940 - he was not impressed.

Except for latitudes above 60N, the weather in Europe moves from west to east most of the time amid the westerlies. Therefore, the storms in Russia were mostly predictable by the Germans days ahead of time. By 1942, the Germans had also established clandestine weather stations in Greenland and in the Arctic ocean capable of reporting the weather even farther in advance.
 
During the summer over a continental landmass like Russia local instability (thunderstorms) can occur more rapidly because of heating affecting unstable air masses. Nevertheless, in this game we're mainly concerned with predicting winter conditions, and because that is mostly frontal in nature, that could have been predicted fairly reliably most of the time several days in advance. Sometimes there can be storms originating over central being forced west by the Siberian High (that the Germans would not have been able to predict), but this isn't that the dominant pattern to the best of my knowledge.
 
To see how the weather moves over Europe, here's a link for today's pattern:  http://www.intellicast.com/Global/Satellite/Infrared.aspx?region=hieusat&animate=true   make sure the animation is turned on.

I think  a weather forecast could really add to the game.

Maybe even a percentage chance (20% mud 80% clear), etc.

ORIGINAL: von Beanie

Except for latitudes above 60N, the weather in Europe moves from west to east most of the time amid the westerlies. Therefore, the storms in Russia were mostly predictable by the Germans days ahead of time. By 1942, the Germans had also established clandestine weather stations in Greenland and in the Arctic ocean capable of reporting the weather even farther in advance.

During the summer over a continental landmass like Russia local instability (thunderstorms) can occur more rapidly because of heating affecting unstable air masses. Nevertheless, in this game we're mainly concerned with predicting winter conditions, and because that is mostly frontal in nature, that could have been predicted fairly reliably most of the time several days in advance. Sometimes there can be storms originating over central being forced west by the Siberian High (that the Germans would not have been able to predict), but this isn't that the dominant pattern to the best of my knowledge.

To see how the weather moves over Europe, here's a link for today's pattern:  http://www.intellicast.com/Global/Satellite/Infrared.aspx?region=hieusat&animate=true   make sure the animation is turned on.

So, it's possible that the Germans knew a few days in advance of a major Winter front but I wonder if the Russians had the same ability ?

One would think you could predict next turn's Rasputitsa by the onset of a deluge of rain the turn before?

Yes, I agree we need a weather probability forecast when (worst term in the rulebook ) 'non-random weather' is unchecked...

ORIGINAL: Jeffrey H.

ORIGINAL: von Beanie

Except for latitudes above 60N, the weather in Europe moves from west to east most of the time amid the westerlies. Therefore, the storms in Russia were mostly predictable by the Germans days ahead of time. By 1942, the Germans had also established clandestine weather stations in Greenland and in the Arctic ocean capable of reporting the weather even farther in advance.

During the summer over a continental landmass like Russia local instability (thunderstorms) can occur more rapidly because of heating affecting unstable air masses. Nevertheless, in this game we're mainly concerned with predicting winter conditions, and because that is mostly frontal in nature, that could have been predicted fairly reliably most of the time several days in advance. Sometimes there can be storms originating over central being forced west by the Siberian High (that the Germans would not have been able to predict), but this isn't that the dominant pattern to the best of my knowledge.

To see how the weather moves over Europe, here's a link for today's pattern:  http://www.intellicast.com/Global/Satellite/Infrared.aspx?region=hieusat&animate=true   make sure the animation is turned on.

So, it's possible that the Germans knew a few days in advance of a major Winter front but I wonder if the Russians had the same ability ?

Yes they did.