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Noob question

Posted: Tue Mar 08, 2011 7:38 pm
by Cvan
Can ships actually be captured? I saw one of my ships in the hands of enemy. Maybe my eyes decieve me! If not then how its possible to capture ship?!

RE: Noob question

Posted: Tue Mar 08, 2011 8:04 pm
by Data
It's not possible...yet. It's something that I've put on the wishlist.
Your former ship may have switched sides after a split of your empire....or was captained by Garrak :)

RE: Noob question

Posted: Tue Mar 08, 2011 8:05 pm
by Wreck
Ships cannot be captured.

The AI can use your designs, though.

RE: Noob question

Posted: Tue Mar 08, 2011 8:17 pm
by J HG T
As others said, no capturing ships currently. Possible feature in future expansion for sure though.

Pirates can use your designs (mainly escorts and frigates, but I've seen some copied destroyers and cruisers also) so don't be surprised to see pirate factions using them. Other AI empires only use your designs if they are splinter faction from your own empire.

RE: Noob question

Posted: Tue Mar 08, 2011 8:24 pm
by Wreck
Other AI empires might get pirates to join them, though, and so might get your design.

RE: Noob question

Posted: Tue Mar 08, 2011 8:31 pm
by J HG T
Completely forgot that. Thanks Wreck!

RE: Noob question

Posted: Tue Mar 08, 2011 8:53 pm
by WoodMan
By default several races use the same ship sets, so they have the same graphics as you.  In ROTS expansion you can get one unique shipset each by downloading my mod Diverse Worlds (plug plug pluggedy plug) [:D]

RE: Noob question

Posted: Tue Mar 08, 2011 8:55 pm
by Cvan
Thanks for the reply. I am aware of pirates using all sorts of designs, but I'm here talking about AI empire. I guess J HG T's and Wreck's explanation will do it. I have much to learn about this game. Pretty complex. Finally some developers willing to sacrifice fancy graphics (in my case I'm more satisfied with 2D graphics due to easy modding and in general I'm more fond of simpler graphics for such game type) for more deeper and better gameplay. Reminds me of good ol' days when I used to play space empires III and IV.
Your former ship may have switched sides after a split of your empire....or was captained by Garrak :)

But he's just an "ordinary tailor"!

RE: Noob question

Posted: Tue Mar 08, 2011 9:02 pm
by Cvan
ORIGINAL: WoodMan

By default several races use the same ship sets, so they have the same graphics as you.  In ROTS expansion you can get one unique shipset each by downloading my mod Diverse Worlds (plug plug pluggedy plug) [:D]
I already downloaded your mod. Must say you really did great job. Those shipsets looks so wonderful I didn't even think about the fact they might be created by combining parts of original ship images. Tried to do something by myself. I'm not bad at image editing, (not an expert aswell) but it didn't work out quite well. Takes master inspiration and imagination to create that many shipsets. I was struggling with one ship for half of hour. Once again, great job!

RE: Noob question

Posted: Wed Mar 09, 2011 5:30 am
by Data
Ya, we all rely on WoodMan's insomnia to get them [:D]

RE: Noob question

Posted: Wed Mar 09, 2011 6:46 am
by Bingeling
I can end up with the ships of the AI, but I am not sure the AI tactics allow them to do the same.

If you capture a colony with an existing space port building ships, the ships will become your when completed. The ships will of course be by the design of the empire you lost them from. If there is a huge build queue, maybe lots of ships could "shift sides" this way?

Do the AI snipe colonies from under space ports? They seem fond of blowing them up.

RE: Noob question

Posted: Wed Mar 09, 2011 10:16 am
by Cvan
ORIGINAL: Bingeling

I can end up with the ships of the AI, but I am not sure the AI tactics allow them to do the same.

If you capture a colony with an existing space port building ships, the ships will become your when completed. The ships will of course be by the design of the empire you lost them from. If there is a huge build queue, maybe lots of ships could "shift sides" this way?

Do the AI snipe colonies from under space ports? They seem fond of blowing them up.
I'm now definetly sure that was the case. I had colony next to enemy and decided to build lots of military ships. I guess I was supposed to organise better defense.

RE: Noob question

Posted: Wed Mar 09, 2011 10:37 am
by Data
a good ofense is sometimes the best defense....actually always for cardasians [:)]

RE: Noob question

Posted: Wed Mar 09, 2011 10:59 am
by MaxyGamer
I must be dreaming... [:)] Data and Garrak - two of my most favorite ST characters in one post. Capturing enemy ships would be a neat feature to have though. Very useful. You spend your resources on building a king-sizer only to witness it destroying your ships and colony few minutes later. Nice.

How about a powerful ship AI mulfuncioning (rare random event of a sort) causing it to go rouge and fry something. I love this game (<--french accent).

RE: Noob question

Posted: Wed Mar 09, 2011 11:03 am
by Data
Being a mooniac I also badly want to capture ships, tractor beam, transporters etc etc. I won't start ranting about this...again [:)]

RE: Noob question

Posted: Wed Mar 09, 2011 12:49 pm
by Cvan
Capturing enemy ship sounds fun, but then getting new techs will be maybe too easy since you will be able to retire one of the captured ships and get technology it has.

RE: Noob question

Posted: Wed Mar 09, 2011 1:12 pm
by Data
Actually, DW is much more advanced at this. Retiring advanced ships does give you a bonus in one research area but not that big and it never gives you techs entirely.
Better at this than MOO2 for example....there you captured a few antarans and bam, instant mega tech available early.

RE: Noob question

Posted: Wed Mar 09, 2011 1:20 pm
by Cvan
Oh I see... Well then it would work out pretty well. I'd like capturing to be implemented one day!

RE: Noob question

Posted: Wed Mar 09, 2011 1:37 pm
by Igard
Hi, Cvan. Nice to meet another Trek fan on the forums. With all us Trekkies playing, surely we'll see such things as phaser beam array weapons, transporters, tractor beams eventually implemented. [8D]

Ship capture has been a wish since the very early days of Distant Worlds (almost a year old now!).

I wonder if there's something planned for it's 1st anniversary...... ?

EDIT: A cloaking device would be nice too.....

RE: Noob question

Posted: Wed Mar 09, 2011 1:48 pm
by Data
Don't cloak your words like this, you nearly broke my glasses [:)]
I mean gold eyes, obviously...