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And so Berlin Falls...... to the Rumanians
Posted: Tue Mar 22, 2011 5:40 pm
by karonagames
I just had to share this result from an AI vs AI test game. It is very rare that Berlin falls in these tests - she usual gets within 3-6 hexes by the end of the game, but this time she got there using her Guards Rumanian Security Division!

RE: And so Berlin Falls...... to the Rumanians
Posted: Tue Mar 22, 2011 5:43 pm
by Aurelian
The Rumanians..... Embarrasing.
RE: And so Berlin Falls...... to the Rumanians
Posted: Tue Mar 22, 2011 5:52 pm
by Encircled
Its enough to make one shoot oneself, my brand new wife, my dog and then get burned with petrol
RE: And so Berlin Falls...... to the Rumanians
Posted: Tue Mar 22, 2011 6:02 pm
by Zorch
<lol>
Yea, can you imagine a Downfall parody of Hitler complaining about the Rumanians?
RE: And so Berlin Falls...... to the Rumanians
Posted: Tue Mar 22, 2011 6:16 pm
by Klydon
Haha. Good one!
RE: And so Berlin Falls...... to the Rumanians
Posted: Tue Mar 22, 2011 6:27 pm
by Oleg Mastruko
How was the SEC division even formed? Can Soviet player form Security divisions and why would he even want to do it, when there are no Axis partisans? How come that non-Soviet units can become Guards (should not be possible or should it)?
So many questions so little time [:D]
I guess it's better to ask these now, rather than wait till some campaigns reach 44 and have to deal with them then...
RE: And so Berlin Falls...... to the Rumanians
Posted: Tue Mar 22, 2011 6:38 pm
by Josh
Zhukov would be so pleased to hear that. Not. [:)]
RE: And so Berlin Falls...... to the Rumanians
Posted: Tue Mar 22, 2011 6:48 pm
by karonagames
When the Rumanians changed sides there was probably a security division in the OOB. Once in GAIA's "pot", units get used as and when she sees fit.
It is just a fluke, but it amused me. I was more pleased to see that she can actually get Berlin. This was the very latest version of the code.
edit: I think the point about a Rumanian unit getting guards status may need to be looked at - it looks they are being treated like any other red army unit.
RE: And so Berlin Falls...... to the Rumanians
Posted: Tue Mar 22, 2011 6:56 pm
by Oleg Mastruko
Amusing indeed, and not completely without historic merit. Rumanians were employed at the frontlines after they went to the allied side, and were very active in siege of Budapest. Of course, historic hatred for Hungarians played part there, Berlin is something else, but as Rumanians in real war reached deep into Slovakia, it is not entirely impossible that some of their divisions would be employed for security duties in occupied Berlin! [;)]
I visited Bucharest military museum several times, and it's one of the most impressive military museums I've seen, with tons of artifacts, documents, photographs, almost equally, and without emotion, divided between Rumianian "Axis phase" and "Allied phase". They seem to be equally proud of both, which is understandable, to a degree.
RE: And so Berlin Falls...... to the Rumanians
Posted: Tue Mar 22, 2011 7:11 pm
by Oleg Mastruko
I had some interesting photos taken in that museum, like flight of Stukas in Rumanian-Soviet service, and Rumanian soldiers still armed with German weapons, like STUG and STG-44 assault rifle, fighting for allied-Soviet side in Hungary and Slovakia. Despite being war-weary to the extreme, Rums always found a new dose of enthusiasm when they had to fight Hungarians, which they hated with passion....
Hopefully we will get to that point in war someday, in our PBEMs [:D]
RE: And so Berlin Falls...... to the Rumanians
Posted: Tue Mar 22, 2011 7:20 pm
by Mynok
The AI is a she? [:D][:D][:D]
There's explanatory value there somewhere.......
RE: And so Berlin Falls...... to the Rumanians
Posted: Tue Mar 22, 2011 7:23 pm
by karonagames
Her name is GAIA (Gary's AI Adversary).
RE: And so Berlin Falls...... to the Rumanians
Posted: Wed Mar 23, 2011 1:09 pm
by Mynok
Looking at that screenshot again should really put the pucker into an Axis player. Some of those stacks have
serious attack CVs, not including all the artillery behind it.



RE: And so Berlin Falls...... to the Rumanians
Posted: Wed Mar 23, 2011 1:41 pm
by karonagames
I covered up the really big ones![:D]
RE: And so Berlin Falls...... to the Rumanians
Posted: Wed Mar 23, 2011 1:49 pm
by Mynok
Yikes.
Those lime-green Germans new units that come later I assume?
RE: And so Berlin Falls...... to the Rumanians
Posted: Wed Mar 23, 2011 5:32 pm
by Oleg Mastruko
There is lime green Pz Group right from the start (still, nothing compares to eyesore-pink group in the AGN sector).
RE: And so Berlin Falls...... to the Rumanians
Posted: Wed Mar 23, 2011 5:33 pm
by Apollo11
Hi all,
ORIGINAL: Oleg Mastruko
There is lime green Pz Group right from the start (still, nothing compares to eyesore-pink group in the AGN sector).
Be careful... Ester might hear you... [8D]
Leo "Apollo11"
RE: And so Berlin Falls...... to the Rumanians
Posted: Wed Mar 23, 2011 5:58 pm
by Mynok
ORIGINAL: Oleg Mastruko
There is lime green Pz Group right from the start (still, nothing compares to eyesore-pink group in the AGN sector).
Right, 3rd Panzer but it is all lime green, not lime green on black.
RE: And so Berlin Falls...... to the Rumanians
Posted: Wed Mar 23, 2011 6:11 pm
by karonagames
They are SS elite and SS non-elite attached to 3PZ.
RE: And so Berlin Falls...... to the Rumanians
Posted: Wed Mar 23, 2011 6:21 pm
by Mynok
Ah....looks like I need to pop open the 44 campaign and see what's coming down the turnpike. Don't think I'm going to like it. [:'(]