Page 1 of 1

reproducing history

Posted: Tue Apr 12, 2011 11:17 am
by lportioli
First of all I want to congratulate for WITE, a very deep game that approaches the possibility of explore some complex "what if "in Barbarossa.
But to reach these cognitive heights the game needs new improvements, measured primarily with the ability to reproduce the historical events. A option permitted by the fantastic AI of WITE that use an AGENTBASED MODELS , a computational tool that is revolutioning the social sciences through a "generative" approach.
In my opinion the first limitation of WITE regards the excessive size of the hexagons ( or ZOC rules ?) - 10 miles-a fact that makes difficult encirclements maneuvers, so typical in the early stages of Barbarossa. The second limit is the excessive length of the turn- one week.
Both conditions lead to a significant delays in penetration, in particular for Army Group Center , a situation that make virtually impossible to explore the alternatives a es. of the crucial Directive 35 taken by Hitler in late August. These limits of WITE are comparable with those of the official versions of Barbarossa in the various versions of the Operational Art of War but and can be greatly improved by adopting the amendments introduced by P. Falotti in Barbarossa At the Tactical Level v1.4 ( dec. 2001)
Exagons of 7.5 miles, 1 day turn and regimental order. I tested this new version and the results in terms of reproduction of historical operations( penetration,air & ground losses..) were astonishing.

RE: reproducing history

Posted: Tue Apr 12, 2011 1:17 pm
by Redmarkus5
You will soon be told this by several people:

"No sensible human Soviet player would allow the Axis side to encircle his front line armies during the early turns, therefore any 'fixes' that force the Soviet player to experience the historical Barbarossa events do not make sense".

RE: reproducing history

Posted: Wed Apr 13, 2011 2:35 am
by bcgames
Sorry Iportioli, the WitE map scale cannot be modified; it is 10 miles per hex. The time scale cannot be modified; it is one week per turn.
ORIGINAL: lportioli
In my opinion the first limitation of WITE regards the excessive size of the hexagons ( or ZOC rules ?) - 10 miles-a fact that makes difficult encirclements maneuvers, so typical in the early stages of Barbarossa. The second limit is the excessive length of the turn- one week.

RE: reproducing history

Posted: Wed Apr 13, 2011 11:11 am
by lportioli
It's right no human Soviet player could allow the encirclement of his front line armies ( a es. retreating ) but why to prevent the Axis the possibility to encircle using the mobility of PzKorp ? Anyway if is not possible to change map & time scale of WITE the game remain superb..