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OT - HMS Ulysses

Posted: Fri May 20, 2011 7:44 pm
by Canoerebel
This is off topic and a copy of something I just posted in my AAR, but I wanted to open it up to a wider audience. This is directed to all you guys, but I'm especially interested in feedback from those of you who are citizens of the United Kingdom.

Have you ever read Allistair McLean's novel HMS Ulysses? If so, what do you think of it?

(It's a novel set in the Murmansk convoys during World War II.)

It has been one of my favorite books since my high school years, and a recent re-reading hasn't altered my high opinion of it. I assume Brits would hold it in high regard, but I thought I'd ask.

RE: OT - HMS Ulysses

Posted: Fri May 20, 2011 8:05 pm
by AW1Steve
I'm not a Brit, but I enjoyed it immensly. I was recently able to locate a pb edition, but I'm still looking for a hard cover. I't make a great movie.

RE: OT - HMS Ulysses

Posted: Fri May 20, 2011 8:41 pm
by Tiornu
[Spoiler alert]
Honestly, I didn't think much of it. The drama felt stretched and forced. I think more planes crashed into this ship than historically crashed into the whole of British cruiser-dom prior to the kamikaze. It was the man's first novel, and I don't think he'd found his voice yet.

RE: OT - HMS Ulysses

Posted: Fri May 20, 2011 8:56 pm
by DuckofTindalos
I found it soul-crushingly depressing, which I suspect was a big objective for McLean...

RE: OT - HMS Ulysses

Posted: Sat May 21, 2011 2:49 am
by jmalter
an alternative to HMS Ulysses, in the same theater - Jan de Hartog's "The Captain. 'S got a nift' RN cruiser, too, but no Kapok Kid.

RE: OT - HMS Ulysses

Posted: Sat May 21, 2011 4:54 am
by ilovestrategy
I haven't read it but I'm going to assume that no mess boys were accused of stealing the last of the strawberries! [:D]

RE: OT - HMS Ulysses

Posted: Sat May 21, 2011 7:28 am
by Arnhem44
I remember reading this when I was a kid, flipping back and forth between the line drawing of the ship and whichever page I was on whenever any part of the ship was mentioned, I think this was the book that introduced me to where the turrets were on a ship when you talked about A,B,X,Y turrets, good times. Been looking for a pb edition for a year now but the local shops here suck big time, was thinking of turning to Amazon, any alternatives out there? It's not published anymore is it? Just pre-owned books out there now?

RE: OT - HMS Ulysses

Posted: Sat May 21, 2011 7:47 am
by Grollub
I read it as a kid. Loved it, even if it was kind of depressing.

I have another favorite though, that I read for the first time when I was young and have kept rereading over the years.

It's Nicholas Monsarrats "The Cruel Sea". Anyone who have missed this one would be advised to correct that mistake. Can be found here;
http://www.amazon.com/Cruel-Sea-Classics-War/dp/1580800467/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1305970955&sr=8-1

RE: OT - HMS Ulysses

Posted: Sat May 21, 2011 10:16 am
by spence
It's Nicholas Monsarrats "The Cruel Sea". Anyone who have missed this one would be advised to correct that mistake.

Talk about soul-crushingly depressing...rubbing the burn cream onto the burned survivor and having the man's skin breaking away, layer after layer, then hoping he would just die and then having the man see it in the Execs eyes....

RE: OT - HMS Ulysses

Posted: Sat May 21, 2011 10:17 am
by Grollub
Ok, I missed labeling that one as "depressing" as well. [:'(]

RE: OT - HMS Ulysses

Posted: Sat May 21, 2011 11:50 pm
by AW1Steve
ORIGINAL: ilovestrategy

I haven't read it but I'm going to assume that no mess boys were accused of stealing the last of the strawberries! [:D]


Nope. But the story does open with the aftermath of a mutiny. [:D]

RE: OT - HMS Ulysses

Posted: Sun May 22, 2011 2:33 am
by BrucePowers
I have never read HMS Ulysses. Another great book about North Atlantic convoy duty is The Good Shepard By CS Forrester. This was about a captain of a US destroyer on convoy duty. It was a very good book.

RE: OT - HMS Ulysses

Posted: Sun May 22, 2011 1:38 pm
by Hortlund
ORIGINAL: Tiornu

[Spoiler alert]
I think more planes crashed into this ship than historically crashed into the whole of British cruiser-dom prior to the kamikaze.

I dont remember any aircraft crashing into the Ulysses [&:]

OnT: I love the book, have read it several times.

RE: OT - HMS Ulysses

Posted: Sun May 22, 2011 1:46 pm
by DuckofTindalos
Apparently not recently. I forget if it's two or three German aircraft that hit it.

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Posted: Sun May 22, 2011 2:12 pm
by AW1Steve
I'd love to get it on Kindle. Unfortunately only Amazon UK has it , and apparently we in the USA can't purchase from them.[:(]

RE: OT - HMS Ulysses

Posted: Sun May 22, 2011 2:25 pm
by BrucePowers
I purchased my copy of the Ordnance Survey from them. All you have to do is open up an Amazon UK account. That is what I did.

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Posted: Sun May 22, 2011 2:29 pm
by obvert
If anyone does want it from the UK Amazon, I'd be happy to get a copy, read it, and then send it on when I I get to the US in June.

RE: OT - HMS Ulysses

Posted: Sun May 22, 2011 3:48 pm
by AW1Steve
Oh I've ordered books from them......the problem is kindle is an e-book. I tried to get them to send it to my emai for my PC (where I'd download it to my Knidle) but apparently their system doesn't permit that. I suspect it's a copy right thing.

RE: OT - HMS Ulysses

Posted: Sun May 22, 2011 3:50 pm
by AW1Steve
ORIGINAL: Terminus

Apparently not recently. I forget if it's two or three German aircraft that hit it.


I don't think they were kamikazes though...I got the impression it was a dead pilot at the control.

RE: OT - HMS Ulysses

Posted: Sun May 22, 2011 3:54 pm
by DuckofTindalos
True. There were definitely one Stuka and one Condor.