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Some general questions about niemirow

Posted: Tue May 24, 2011 4:46 pm
by MarkShot
I am playing the Axis. How come I don't see any set up zone during the setup phase? It looks like I can just move anyone 250m?

I've been on a number of maps now and have tried pressing 7, but never see gridded terrain. Is there ever any gridded terrain?

Thanks.

RE: Some general questions about niemirow

Posted: Tue May 24, 2011 5:00 pm
by Mobius
ORIGINAL: MarkShot
I am playing the Axis. How come I don't see any set up zone during the setup phase? It looks like I can just move anyone 250m?
Setup zone aren't necessary the best way for a setup. You can move all units in a setup zone to any other spot in a setup zone. It can really throw off what the scenario designer wants to accomplish. I don't like them but I need them in campaign scenarios. So if you see a map without setup zones it at least means it isn't a scenario of a campaign.

RE: Some general questions about niemirow

Posted: Tue May 24, 2011 5:10 pm
by MarkShot
So, with Niemirow, should I be placing units in what I feel are optimal defensive positions are just taking the starting default.

Also, once I have played this scenario is there anything in the game that will vary how it plays in the future (other than difficulty) or is my main option for long-term replay 3rd party created scenarios or the random generators?

Thanks.

PS: I never played QBs in CM, but there were something like 4,000+ custom scenarios effectively making replay value limitless. (I had to replay scenarios except a few years later when I cannot recall any of the details from last time. One of the advantages of getting older.)

RE: Some general questions about niemirow

Posted: Tue May 24, 2011 5:18 pm
by Mobius
ORIGINAL: MarkShot

So, with Niemirow, should I be placing units in what I feel are optimal defensive positions are just taking the starting default.

Also, once I have played this scenario is there anything in the game that will vary how it plays in the future (other than difficulty) or is my main option for long-term replay 3rd party created scenarios or the random generators?
The gun positions are pretty good but are the historic locations of the guns. You can move some of them around. The AI Soviets vary their paths and what flags they go for.

When you run as Soviets the AT gun do a number on the light tanks. Even if you are able to get most of the German AT guns the little 45mm guns have a tough time defeating the German infantry in the buildings.

Even the German AT rifles can take out BT-7s. I've seen them bag a brace of BTs before breakfast.

RE: Some general questions about niemirow

Posted: Tue May 24, 2011 11:10 pm
by junk2drive
The legacy maps from PCOWS and PCK do not have grid as they were not made with Map Maker. Other maps should display the grid with the 7 key.
Since you have been playing the tutorial and boot camp, those are legacy. Niemrow however, should have the grid.

RE: Some general questions about niemirow

Posted: Tue May 24, 2011 11:56 pm
by Mad Russian
ORIGINAL: MarkShot

I am playing the Axis. How come I don't see any set up zone during the setup phase? It looks like I can just move anyone 250m?

Setup zones are entirely scenario designer specific. Some like them some don't. When you review the scenarios you can voice your opinions.

Good Hunting.

MR