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Training Groups

Posted: Wed Jun 29, 2011 6:15 am
by Arigoth
Manual says I can define some groups as "Training groups" and can stock them with pilots but but it never does tell me how to do it. Any help would be greatly appreciated.

RE: Training Groups

Posted: Wed Jun 29, 2011 9:37 am
by m10bob
Just look on the mission column of your air group, set it at *TRAINING*,100% for whatever skill you want them to learn.

Once that unit achieves the desired skill level, disband the unit, the planes and pilots will go into the pool, where you can selectively place individual pilots into a unit of your choice.

RE: Training Groups

Posted: Wed Jun 29, 2011 4:49 pm
by crsutton
This is a reference to an earlier version of the game where you could have dedicated "training squadrons" that could hold more pilots and perhaps some other features. This did not last long and the feature was removed in an early patch. Not sure why, but it was a bit redundant as any unit can be set to training.

As was the case in UV and WITP, the original manual is now very much out of date. Still useful but there have been many changes to the game.

RE: Training Groups

Posted: Thu Jun 30, 2011 1:50 am
by erstad
The Japanese player does get some training groups starting in 44.

RE: Training Groups

Posted: Fri Jul 01, 2011 6:01 am
by Arigoth
Thats the problem. Reading the manual again. They keep telling me never, never, never read the manual.

RE: Training Groups

Posted: Fri Jul 01, 2011 10:55 am
by crsutton
No, still plenty of good stuff in the manual. Reminds me, I will have to read it someday...[:D]

RE: Training Groups

Posted: Fri Jul 01, 2011 2:09 pm
by Shark7
ORIGINAL: crsutton

This is a reference to an earlier version of the game where you could have dedicated "training squadrons" that could hold more pilots and perhaps some other features. This did not last long and the feature was removed in an early patch. Not sure why, but it was a bit redundant as any unit can be set to training.

As was the case in UV and WITP, the original manual is now very much out of date. Still useful but there have been many changes to the game.

Actually, if you mod the game you can have training groups and they do work...for players. If you look in the groups database you will see a 'Trainer' checkbox...this is what triggers a group to be a training only group. I don't think the AI really gains any advantage from them though.

I have tried it, it does work...

You add in a group (I used groups of 48 planes for my test). And in game you can do 2 things:

1. Pull in an 'instructor' or two which are high skilled pilots (generally 80 XP plus) which do seem to speed the training.
2. Each group of 48 planes could support 144 'students' though I suspect 144 is a hardcoded cap regardless of the number of planes.

End result is it does work, and once the 'students' hit the appropriate XP level, they will be dispersed to the various squadrons that need pilot replacements.

But it is extra micromanagement that is unnecessary, and the Dev's obviously cut it out for good reasons, whether we know them or not.

RE: Training Groups

Posted: Sun May 27, 2012 3:25 pm
by KPAX
Ok, sorry, but just want to make sure of this.


So, the manual states you can have "training groups" (section 16.3), but they are not in the game now?

If they are still in the game, I am totally confused as to how to start one, advise please.[&:]

If they are not in the game, it is simply use training missions or find an enemy base and run missions to them?


RE: Training Groups

Posted: Sun May 27, 2012 6:57 pm
by Grfin Zeppelin
Yes, forget training squadrons.
Generaly one can say that every squadron which uses the training mission is a training squadron.
About your second question, sure you can train also a couple of rookies via lets say sweeps over enemy bases but uh dont be surprised if some Zeros show up.