Page 1 of 1
Supply to Loaned Corps
Posted: Wed Aug 03, 2011 12:14 pm
by Sorta
Is a country meant to be able to supply corps loaned from another country?
The game allows it but seem to remember that the board game didn't. Looked in the rules but seems silent.
Is this a difference between board and PC game?
Thanks
RE: Supply to Loaned Corps
Posted: Wed Aug 03, 2011 12:23 pm
by jardail
In the board version of the game, the loaning country was supposed to pay supply for the corps that they loaned. That is what I remember anyway from many years ago. Never did make much sense to me, but I'm glad the PC version doesn't do that.
RE: Supply to Loaned Corps
Posted: Wed Aug 03, 2011 4:16 pm
by pzgndr
7.6 Loaning Corps, Leaders, Fleets - Allies may declare that one or more of their corps, leaders or fleets will be “loaned” for the remainder of the month, with movement and supply costs of all loaned forces being handled by the ally borrowing them. This enables allies to move and attack together against a common enemy.
This has been brought up before and whether this is the best way to handle allied supply and costs or not. It's implemented simply enough but presumes the loaning country also sends money to help pay for supply. Maybe this could be automated, or made an implied condition of a loan? As it is, human players need to work it out between them.
Another related concern/request was whether allies could share depots and just pay for supply normally, but Marshall has repeatedly indicated this is a problem to code. So players have to carefully consider how to move and attack together.
If anyone has good experience with multiplayer coalition operations in EiANW and could offer some insights for coordinating allied movement, supply and combat then that's something that could be added to the User Manual.
RE: Supply to Loaned Corps
Posted: Wed Aug 03, 2011 4:27 pm
by Sorta
But ignoring the cost of funding is it correct that say GB can pay for Turkish corps loaned to GB using GB's depot?
I.e. Turky does not need to also provide a Turkish depot to feed the TU corps loaned to GB
ORIGINAL: pzgndr
7.6 Loaning Corps, Leaders, Fleets - Allies may declare that one or more of their corps, leaders or fleets will be “loaned” for the remainder of the month, with movement and supply costs of all loaned forces being handled by the ally borrowing them. This enables allies to move and attack together against a common enemy.
This has been brought up before and whether this is the best way to handle allied supply and costs or not. It's implemented simply enough but presumes the loaning country also sends money to help pay for supply. Maybe this could be automated, or made an implied condition of a loan? As it is, human players need to work it out between them.
Another related concern/request was whether allies could share depots and just pay for supply normally, but Marshall has repeatedly indicated this is a problem to code. So players have to carefully consider how to move and attack together.
If anyone has good experience with multiplayer coalition operations in EiANW and could offer some insights for coordinating allied movement, supply and combat then that's something that could be added to the User Manual.
RE: Supply to Loaned Corps
Posted: Wed Aug 03, 2011 7:43 pm
by Cunctator
In the boardgame it was not only possible to move simoultaneously with another allied player, but it was also possible to draw supply from allied depots (if authorized by the ally which had to pay the relevant costs).
In Eianw it was not possible (expecially in a PBEM game) to implement the combined movement so Marshall invented the loan system (probably the idea came from one of the unconditonal peace conditions of the boardgame, not implemented in Eianw).
It was a brilliant solution and it was structured logically.
The loanee moves the loaned troops, supply them with his own depots, pays the costs of that supply.
I saw this rule exploited sometimes in a gamey manner, but it functions very well as it is.
C.