Pionier or regular infatnry
Posted: Fri Sep 09, 2011 5:07 pm
I know there are statistics provided in game and I can read them. I want to know if you prefer Wehrmacht infantry, Grenadiers or Pioniers, and WHY?[8|]
What's your Strategy?
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ORIGINAL: terje439
Pioneers any day. In fact my only inf units are Pioneers and Paratroopers.
Terje
ORIGINAL: J P Falcon
ORIGINAL: terje439
Pioneers any day. In fact my only inf units are Pioneers and Paratroopers.
Terje
I must admit I have not devoted any Paratroopers to my core but I'll look into that possibility when I do a replay and see what new strategic fun I can have!
ORIGINAL: J P Falcon
Pioneers do a better job when attacking cities so that's good enough for me...I keep a couple of bridging units on hand as well....
ORIGINAL: parusski
ORIGINAL: J P Falcon
Pioneers do a better job when attacking cities so that's good enough for me...I keep a couple of bridging units on hand as well....
I keep several, actually I end up with mostly Pionier's.
James Ward, I love those hero's, they not only fly but they kick ass.
Thanks for everyone's opinion.
ORIGINAL: Misconduct
Early in the campaign Paratroopers are great for taking middle position airfields, however later in the Campaigns they can get overrun easily, so be wise with them
Interesting debate. Personally, I prefer a core of Grenadiers as my main Infantry force (I usually upgrade all my Wehrmacht Infantry to Grenadiers for 40 prestige ASAP) with some Fallschirmjägers and Gebirgsjägers as specialty support. Since what I really want are Panzergrenadiers, I will outfit them with sdkfz 250/251 as quickly as I can. That somewhat mitigates their 2 speed although initially prestige heavy. However I find it balances out over the course of a campaign and I love their hard-hitting ability against Hard targets.
I really like to vet my Fallschirmjägers and Gebirgsjägers the quickest so they become nasty, then I over-strength them each scenario to do the dirty work. They lack somewhat against Hard targets but I try to play the Campaign and Scenarios as historical as I can. Fallschirmjägers do get the "fortkiller" trait so they can somewhat sub for Pionieres (although I use them too, just not en masse like others). It's just historically, they were elite troops of the Wehrmacht.
ORIGINAL: VR_IronFist
Always a fun topic. Here was my response to the same question on the Slitherine forums. My opinion hasn't changed as 1943 Grenadiers have won me many a multiplayer game with their ability to handle tanks from the proper terrain.
Interesting debate. Personally, I prefer a core of Grenadiers as my main Infantry force (I usually upgrade all my Wehrmacht Infantry to Grenadiers for 40 prestige ASAP) with some Fallschirmjägers and Gebirgsjägers as specialty support. Since what I really want are Panzergrenadiers, I will outfit them with sdkfz 250/251 as quickly as I can. That somewhat mitigates their 2 speed although initially prestige heavy. However I find it balances out over the course of a campaign and I love their hard-hitting ability against Hard targets.
I really like to vet my Fallschirmjägers and Gebirgsjägers the quickest so they become nasty, then I over-strength them each scenario to do the dirty work. They lack somewhat against Hard targets but I try to play the Campaign and Scenarios as historical as I can. Fallschirmjägers do get the "fortkiller" trait so they can somewhat sub for Pionieres (although I use them too, just not en masse like others). It's just historically, they were elite troops of the Wehrmacht.
ORIGINAL: parusski
ORIGINAL: VR_IronFist
Always a fun topic. Here was my response to the same question on the Slitherine forums. My opinion hasn't changed as 1943 Grenadiers have won me many a multiplayer game with their ability to handle tanks from the proper terrain.
Interesting debate. Personally, I prefer a core of Grenadiers as my main Infantry force (I usually upgrade all my Wehrmacht Infantry to Grenadiers for 40 prestige ASAP) with some Fallschirmjägers and Gebirgsjägers as specialty support. Since what I really want are Panzergrenadiers, I will outfit them with sdkfz 250/251 as quickly as I can. That somewhat mitigates their 2 speed although initially prestige heavy. However I find it balances out over the course of a campaign and I love their hard-hitting ability against Hard targets.
I really like to vet my Fallschirmjägers and Gebirgsjägers the quickest so they become nasty, then I over-strength them each scenario to do the dirty work. They lack somewhat against Hard targets but I try to play the Campaign and Scenarios as historical as I can. Fallschirmjägers do get the "fortkiller" trait so they can somewhat sub for Pionieres (although I use them too, just not en masse like others). It's just historically, they were elite troops of the Wehrmacht.
That is a very intriguing concept. Your well written response has convinced me to try things your way.