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Gents,

Another notice. I experience that plowed field provides concealment for the infantry. Why? Plowed earth gives nothing just makes movement on food and on wheels harder.Nothing else.

Or is that a vegetable field with bush-like foliage?

Maybe infantry can take cover in deep furrows?
Of course this was set up before we had different grass types so some sort of crop was suppose to be standing in the plowed field.

I was in plowed fields and I believe it is not enough by itself to provide that much cover. It should not provide concealment unless some kind of grass or such is put on it and  have the concealment explicitly defined there. 

A fresh plow on a planted field might give some concealment, but I think it would be minimal, and once harrowed(sp?) you would be hard pressed to find any earth/grass clump large enough to provide any concealment at all.

If others agree it would be good to change the data for this in the patch too.

This depends a lot on how fields are planted, cultivated and harvested. This was also discussed when PCK first came out.

Thanks
rick

True, but for that there is the grass system. Id the designer puts plants on top via the grass system it will give concealment. If it remains without foliage then it should not give any IMHO.

Don't know - a person under fire can make themselves very small - and a prone firer/prone target only needs a 7-8" fold in the ground to break LOS.

Also given the natural tendency to search cover, it wouldn't surprise me to find decent concealment 'in the open' so long as you don't move or fire.
(In fact ISTR some description of fugitives hiding in the open, rather than in the nearby buildings/trees, and when the large number of soldiers arrived and searched, they missed the presence of the group, as the search was only focussed on the wooded area and settlement.)

It goes with counter-intuitive observations, such as:
A small unit preferring to be pursued by a larger one, 'as they travel slower and make more noise'.
People tend not to look up (or down at the ground except near their feet) - preferring to scan near the "natural" level horizon.