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BIG guns
Posted: Sun Oct 02, 2011 3:46 pm
by british exil
IS it really worth the investment? I mean instead of building normal Art, switching to the heavy Art.?
Ok I know I have a further range of 3 hexes instead of 2. But is it worth the PP's of development compared to upgrading to ArtII?
What are your thoughts? Any experiences?
Mat
RE: BIG guns
Posted: Sun Oct 02, 2011 5:55 pm
by Keunert
depending on the situation it can be an advantage to stay two hexes behind the frontline to keep out of recon.
if you place it in the second line the higher range gives you more targets without moving the artillery and thus losing action points.
if the scenario has counter battery fire you can evade this by using heavy artillery.
RE: BIG guns
Posted: Sun Oct 02, 2011 6:08 pm
by british exil
Thanks for your response.
At the moment I'm playing a random game so I doubt that counter battery fire is being used, but good to know.
The hidden aspect is also intersesting, staying out of sight and bombarding my enemy feels a little sneaky - but who said war was fair.
Mat
RE: BIG guns
Posted: Mon Oct 03, 2011 6:08 am
by Josh
Well I find Heavy Arty extremely efficient. I always start with Art I and II ofcourse, but very soon after that it's Heavy Arty II. A real Inf. killer in my experience. You have to use trucks or halftracks to move them though... and since it has happened in many games that my tanks were almost dry, that also means no Arty support if you're relying on trucks/halftracks... they can't move without oil. [:D]
RE: BIG guns
Posted: Mon Oct 03, 2011 6:23 am
by british exil
Josh Dank u wel.
Reading your post, I remembered the older threads of players wanting to move the heavy Art with horses but complained that it was not possible.
So I would have to invest in Art research plus transport building plus a lot of oil. Sounds more like a siege gun or defensive role to me.
But maybe I might give it a go.
Mat
RE: BIG guns
Posted: Mon Oct 03, 2011 6:54 am
by rjh1971
Hi Mat
I have used the Big Guns to bombard you across a stretch of water and support my landing units. You will have to knock them from the air. So far they did not do to much harm on your units.
RE: BIG guns
Posted: Mon Oct 03, 2011 8:12 am
by british exil
You sneaky coward!! [:-]
[:D][:D][:D][:D]
I noticed that stalemate. You have put me in a pickle.
Mat
RE: BIG guns
Posted: Mon Oct 03, 2011 1:50 pm
by Keunert
it soothe's my insecurity to know that i have the bigger gun.
RE: BIG guns
Posted: Mon Oct 03, 2011 1:58 pm
by Rander
ORIGINAL: Josh
Well I find Heavy Arty extremely efficient. I always start with Art I and II ofcourse, but very soon after that it's Heavy Arty II. A real Inf. killer in my experience. You have to use trucks or halftracks to move them though... and since it has happened in many games that my tanks were almost dry, that also means no Arty support if you're relying on trucks/halftracks... they can't move without oil. [:D]
You can move them with trains.
Bye!
RE: BIG guns
Posted: Mon Oct 03, 2011 6:40 pm
by rjh1971
ORIGINAL: Rander
ORIGINAL: Josh
Well I find Heavy Arty extremely efficient. I always start with Art I and II ofcourse, but very soon after that it's Heavy Arty II. A real Inf. killer in my experience. You have to use trucks or halftracks to move them though... and since it has happened in many games that my tanks were almost dry, that also means no Arty support if you're relying on trucks/halftracks... they can't move without oil. [:D]
You can move them with trains.
Bye!
I must try this, thanks for the tip.
Edit: Do you actually transfer trains to the BG art unit and move them, or just use strategic movement with trains?
RE: BIG guns
Posted: Tue Oct 04, 2011 12:22 pm
by phatkarp
Rail artillery -- by actually placing the trains in the unit with the heavies.
RE: BIG guns
Posted: Tue Oct 04, 2011 2:17 pm
by Josh
I never tried it, read about it before but never tried it. Besides when they are stuck to the railgrid they won't get as fast Exp. as when they're tracked/wheeled. It's a good idea though. Maybe Vic could even introduce a new SFT "Heavy Railgun", really really expensive, uses loads of men, is stuck to the railgrid, and obliterates fortified positions.
RE: BIG guns
Posted: Tue Oct 04, 2011 9:04 pm
by Rander
rjh1971
I must try this, thanks for the tip.
Edit: Do you actually transfer trains to the BG art unit and move them, or just use strategic movement with trains?
Instead of trucks I put trains on the unit. Of course, then you can only move them on the railgrid, but for me it's enough.
Bye.
RE: BIG guns
Posted: Thu Dec 29, 2011 10:36 pm
by CSO_Talorgan
ORIGINAL: Josh
Maybe Vic could even introduce a new SFT "Heavy Railgun", really really expensive, uses loads of men, is stuck to the railgrid, and obliterates fortified positions.
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