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Good day to you all.
I would be interested in reading about what your favourite units are in SPWAW?They need not necessarily be the best of their type.That has been expounded upon at great length,(and I might add,in a very stimulating and knowledgeable manner)elsewhere in this forum.
I simply mean which do you have the most fun with,and why?For example:the U.S."Duster"AA vehicle proved most useful in shooting up Japanese infantry.This was after it failed to shoot down any Japanese planes as they destroyed my armour!LOL!In subsequent games I would purchase an extra platoon or two as infantry support.Very useful they have proved to be too.
So what units do you enjoy?Or use for other than their intended purpose?I would be very pleased to read your responses.
Regards,
Fontenoy.

I got the feeling the quad AA's are pretty popular with everyone due to their infantry-mowing capabilites

I'm getting more and more fond of the PzIII 5cm as a infantry-killer as well.

60mm U.S. mortar squad or any recon patrol, FO, or sniper.

I find using these types of units well is very challenging and fun. Its very satisfying to cause havoc with minimal resources. I cringe in anticipation of the flood of "Tiger XXX with the dual 800mm smoothbore".

Russian OffBoard 203mm

Boom. For less points.

Well for me it depends on the Country I am playing

Russia-SU-57 this little jewel is an assume light Anti-Tank destroyer. Has relatively light armor but carries 57mm L2 M1 Gun which has a max penitration with AP round of 103, and carries 8 rounds of APRC with max penatration of 161. It also carries a 12.7 AAMG the which cleans up all your infantry, half tracks and soft targets very well. It also has a speed of 31.

French-Has to be the Char B1 bis - relatively slow but has 2 main guns a 45mm Sa 35 and a 75mm Sa 35 both have a max penatration of 75 which is a lot for its time period. Also it has two MG's and a ton of armor. Most German tanks can not kill it during that time period except for the Sig33, Pzjg-1b, and 88's all tank destroyers.

USA-Rangers with the M9 bazooka-Hands down the best infantry unit in the game. No contest. Also 8'' Howitzers, they destroy everything. Ouch.

German-tough one here. I would have to go with the 88's or the half tracks. Germans by far have the best half tracks in the game. The 88's need no explination.

British- I would have to go with their 17 pnd AT-gun. Has a size class of 1 that is right 1. Max penatration with AP ammo is 184 yes that is right, and with APRC ammo it is 251. Ouch. Has a rate of fire of 6 and fire control of 5. And get this it can be carried by half tracks it is considered a light gun. Go figure.

I do not play many of the other countries so I can not give you a preference

British- I would have to go with their 17 pnd AT-gun. Has a size class of 1 that is right 1. Max penatration with AP ammo is 184 yes that is right, and with APRC ammo it is 251. Ouch. Has a rate of fire of 6 and fire control of 5. And get this it can be carried by half tracks it is considered a light gun. Go figure.

Woo....How many points do those things cost though?

Originally posted by G_X


Woo....How many points do those things cost though?

Cost 109.

Until last week i would have said 88'sNow i got to say 150mm sig infantry guns.You place some in front of your 88's and bam!They pop just about everything if it gets close enough and they'll disperse those crazy russian human waves.

The British "Firefly"tank packs a decent wallop.Very effective against those nasty Tigers.I believe it carries a 17-pounder.
Of course I may be wrong.Just going from memory.I know one of those later(44-45)British tanks carried a 17-pounder.
Regards,
Fontenoy.

Panther G Uhu by far. IR combined with nice gun, armor and speed makes it very deadly.

my all time favourite is flampanzer, it always have biggest kill count when i play against AI cause it can wipe out anything even if target is fortified...ofc it has a low armour so must be careful not to drive it front of any ATGs or enemy tanks

OK- so this is a bit off topic, but what is the difference (in game terms) between a Panther G and a Panther G Uhu? I know the Uhu is equipped with an active IR device ... how is this portrayed in the game? Is it worth the extra cost over a stock Panther G (my fave tank BTW ). Just curious ...

Yes, it's worth the extra points, I'm not sure how it affects gameplay though.



109 points for that thing?!? Man...That rawks

Originally posted by G_X
Yes, it's worth the extra points, I'm not sure how it affects gameplay though.



109 points for that thing?!? Man...That rawks

Play a game at night with a 3-4 visibility, everything else will be able to see 3-4, the UHU's will always be able to see a minimum of 10. The Panthers will be able to see and shoot 6-7 hexs further away. If you are the side opposing them, it will appear that you are being fired at by invisible units.
thanks, John.

Originally posted by Gary Tatro

USA-Rangers with the M9 bazooka-Hands down the best infantry unit in the game. No contest.

Now they are, but for a while back around v5 the Anzac jungle patrol ruled.

Due to a 3 squad multiplier that never got removed from the SP3 days, it was an 18 man size 0 elite recon special forces unit armed with smgs, bren gun, flamethrower and grenades. Move next to one and you were dead.

It was the only unit with a flamethrower that could infiltrate.

Cost for all that was only about 100 pts per unit.
thanks, John.

Inf-
Rangers!! I have played through most of the Long Road to Victory with just Rangers and some 105s.

Tank-
Pz-II!!! I have fell in love with these. Early war they are awesome. They carry 60 ap rounds and 10 apcr, and they chew through inf.

Arty-
Katyushas!!! Nothing better. Buy some ammo trucks and you can fire off some rockets with max pen of 173(?) and move before the counterbattery fire comes.

Airsupport-
Ju-88 with a 7.5cm gun or a Ju-87 with dual 37mm. Awesome against tanks.

Matilda Mk II

Ya its slow so what.
Ya its gun ain't massive so what.
Man the thing has armour to waste though. Almost indestructible in France eh.

Of course France is the key here.

I love playing with Matilda Mk IIs in France against oh so confident German opponents who fail to realise a Panzer III isn't worth spit in a showdown with a Matilda.

And naturally I don't have to willingly oblige blindly running around looking for 88s eh:)

Germany: The Tiger (what a surprise, eh?).

UK: Can´t decide between the Firefly and the Churchill AVRE.

SU: Any tank of the KV-series.

USA: Pershing M26.

Italy: Para libici. The best italian infantry.

Finland: Any inf-unit.

Out of these, I would choose....the...uh...Churchill AVRE as the best. You just can´t beat that 290mm(?) mortar.

A matilitda? And i expected something different from you Les.All the same who needs pz-III's when sig infantry guns pop em just Fine.Plus it blows the infantry who ride those deathtraps to hell as well.

Originally posted by GYBLIN
A matilitda? And i expected something different from you Les.All the same who needs pz-III's when sig infantry guns pop em just Fine.Plus it blows the infantry who ride those deathtraps to hell as well.

Not only that, a standard Matilda II crew has a morale that bites. Fling a few shots at it and - no you will not damage it, but the crew will head for home without their ride.

Empty 'tildas are worthless.