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Real Life OOB and Casualties?

Posted: Sat Dec 03, 2011 2:16 am
by Shupov
It would be very interesting to know the real life strengths and casualties for each side at different points in the war.

Example - after Barbarossa, Stalingrad, Kursk, Bagration etc. what were the actual:

OOB
Manpower
Guns
Tanks
Planes

Losses
Killed
Captured
Disabled
Guns Destroyed
Tanks Destroyed
Planes Destroyed

Then WitE players could compare their games with history not just in territory but in men and equipment as well.

Many historic sources are available (e.g. David Glantz et al) but it's hard to equivalence their numbers with the game, especially for Men Disabled. Possibly the WitE team would share the numbers they used to calibrate the game with the actual campaign.

RE: Real Life OOB and Casualties?

Posted: Sat Dec 03, 2011 10:34 am
by OTZ
Casualty figures are especially difficult in terms of arriving at a definitive figure. Both the Russians and Germans had different reporting methods (for both men and materiel), and both were plagued by complete organizational chaos at different periods of the war (making accurate reporting difficult at those times). I believe  Krivosheev's accounting for the Russians, and perhaps Overman's for the Germans, are the most popular (but not necessarily the most accurate) sources for casualty info.