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How is African Campaign?
Posted: Thu Dec 08, 2011 11:22 pm
by Texican
I don't want to stir up a lot of vitriol, but in past games like this, nothing was going on in the Mediterranean as all the action was in France or Russia.
Does the AI focus any kind of German effort in Africa? In other words, will there be battles in Libibya? (And plesse, no vitriol).
RE: How is African Campaign?
Posted: Fri Dec 09, 2011 12:28 am
by Footslogger
In addition, with there be an Afrkia Korps? Can Malta be taken by Rommel's forces? If so, will the Germans be able to take the middle east and replenish it's oil supply?
RE: How is African Campaign?
Posted: Fri Dec 09, 2011 12:56 am
by gwgardner
Yes, to all those questions, except the vitriol.
Convoys are critical to the Axis effort there. Malta is a big thorn in the Axis side, but can be taken by the proper kind of assault. Sometimes.
As historically, Tobruk is critical - the only useful port between Alexandria and Tripoli.
And if the Axis does take Egypt, it is possible in this game to fight all the way to the underbelly of Russia, or into Persia.
RE: How is African Campaign?
Posted: Fri Dec 09, 2011 2:56 pm
by Texican
ORIGINAL: gwgardner
Yes, to all those questions, except the vitriol.
Convoys are critical to the Axis effort there. Malta is a big thorn in the Axis side, but can be taken by the proper kind of assault. Sometimes.
As historically, Tobruk is critical - the only useful port between Alexandria and Tripoli.
And if the Axis does take Egypt, it is possible in this game to fight all the way to the underbelly of Russia, or into Persia.
Players might do that, but are you saying the A.I. will do that? (i.e., put panzers in Afrika and give a good fight and support to the theater.)
RE: How is African Campaign?
Posted: Fri Dec 09, 2011 3:49 pm
by doomtrader
It might do that.
RE: How is African Campaign?
Posted: Fri Dec 09, 2011 3:59 pm
by Texican
ORIGINAL: doomtrader
It might do that.
I hope so. IMO, one of the cornerstone misses of European Theater Strategic gaming is the Mediterranean gets abandoned, and a UK player rolls through to Tripoli unopposed in early '40.
They got to have a way of coding emphasis, maybe code a minimum emphasis to keep some German mech units rolling down there or something.
RE: How is African Campaign?
Posted: Fri Dec 09, 2011 7:26 pm
by gwgardner
Don't get carried away in expectations of what the AI can do in NA - after all, the real Germans and Italians couldn't put much there due to logistics.
Even as a human player, you are limited by your transport capacity for supply to Africa. The more units you put in Africa, the more transports you need. Put too many troops there, and your supply goes down the drain because you can't build enough transports.
RE: How is African Campaign?
Posted: Fri Dec 09, 2011 7:33 pm
by doomtrader
Saint words gwgardner.
A lot depends how well the Brits are going to be prepared in NA.
RE: How is African Campaign?
Posted: Fri Dec 09, 2011 7:47 pm
by Footslogger
Well Rommel had major supply problems, due mostly to Air attacks from Malta.
RE: How is African Campaign?
Posted: Fri Dec 09, 2011 7:57 pm
by doomtrader
IIRC he uses more trucks to transport supply than to transport troops.
RE: How is African Campaign?
Posted: Fri Dec 09, 2011 8:05 pm
by gwgardner
In this game so long as Malta is in Allied hands, the Axis is likely to feel the pinch.
RE: How is African Campaign?
Posted: Fri Dec 09, 2011 8:10 pm
by Texican
ORIGINAL: gwgardner
In this game so long as Malta is in Allied hands, the Axis is likely to feel the pinch.
As long as the Axis AI sends German troops down to N.A., the theater will be interesting. In a lot of other games, the AI will deploy a bunch of Italian units at the start, but that's all the effort that will ever exist down there.
Bottom Line: I'm looking for a good fight in the desert; going to hit the Jerries for six!
I'm sure I'll find out soon enough if I purchase the game.