How to create Tank Armies?
Posted: Wed Dec 21, 2011 4:13 pm
Sorry, but I could not find this on the manual. How do you create Soviet Tank Armies and when?
Thanks in advance
Thanks in advance
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How to create Tank Armies?
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RE: How to create Tank Armies?
Posted: Wed Dec 21, 2011 4:22 pm
July 42 they become available. Build like any other army- in or next to urban/city hex.
RE: How to create Tank Armies?
Posted: Wed Dec 21, 2011 4:30 pm
They cost a bunch of APs. Kind of annoying, because there are plenty of "regular" Army HQs around, but I like to have Tank Armies.
25 APs, though it does come with a bunch of SU's attached for "Free".
That doesnt' include the cost of firing the crappy leader it might come with, and replacing him with someone decent. I like the guys who are high Mech-rating but average otherwise, like Rybalko or Batov
25 APs, though it does come with a bunch of SU's attached for "Free".
That doesnt' include the cost of firing the crappy leader it might come with, and replacing him with someone decent. I like the guys who are high Mech-rating but average otherwise, like Rybalko or Batov
RE: How to create Tank Armies?
Posted: Wed Dec 21, 2011 4:36 pm
I see, thank you very much [:)]
I don't want to start a flame war (after all I started this thread) but... who said Soviets have tons of APs, that shifting units from command x and y is easy?? Utterly false [8D]
I don't want to start a flame war (after all I started this thread) but... who said Soviets have tons of APs, that shifting units from command x and y is easy?? Utterly false [8D]
RE: How to create Tank Armies?
Posted: Wed Dec 21, 2011 7:13 pm
Hello
a small side note:
Normaly the ai attach SU for the new Tank army (which costs also some ap if you have some) and you also need some arments points to fill this unit. (e.g. if you have 50 ap points the ai spends not 25 point to create this army but so round about 30-35 or so to ccreate this army and some SU.
You also need some pints for an new leader. So all it costs you round about 40-50 ap to build one Trank Army. (excluding costs for attaching units which are not attach to STAVKA HQ)
Omat
a small side note:
Normaly the ai attach SU for the new Tank army (which costs also some ap if you have some) and you also need some arments points to fill this unit. (e.g. if you have 50 ap points the ai spends not 25 point to create this army but so round about 30-35 or so to ccreate this army and some SU.
You also need some pints for an new leader. So all it costs you round about 40-50 ap to build one Trank Army. (excluding costs for attaching units which are not attach to STAVKA HQ)
Omat
RE: How to create Tank Armies?
Posted: Wed Dec 21, 2011 7:17 pm
Pints for the new liter?[:D]ORIGINAL: Omat
You also need some pints for an new leader.
RE: How to create Tank Armies?
Posted: Wed Dec 21, 2011 8:04 pm
ORIGINAL: JAMiAM
Pints for the new liter?[:D]ORIGINAL: Omat
You also need some pints for an new leader.
No, no, by that time you are out of USSR generals (Stalin has shot most of them), and you need to hire British ones [:D]
RE: How to create Tank Armies?
Posted: Wed Dec 21, 2011 9:07 pm
Any benefit to a tank army over combined arms?
RE: How to create Tank Armies?
Posted: Wed Dec 21, 2011 9:20 pm
When a motorized unit is performing an admin leader check, leaders of Tank Army, Panzer Army, or Panzer Corps HQ units involved in the admin leader check receive a +1 to their admin rating during the check.
RE: How to create Tank Armies?
Posted: Wed Dec 21, 2011 9:56 pm
Hi
Yes pints...vodka isn`t good enough to entice a good general to do this job
Omat
Yes pints...vodka isn`t good enough to entice a good general to do this job
Omat
ORIGINAL: JAMiAM
Pints for the new liter?[:D]ORIGINAL: Omat
You also need some pints for an new leader.
RE: How to create Tank Armies?
Posted: Wed Dec 21, 2011 10:12 pm
I recently created a couple tank army hq's and paid only 25 points. they came with a bunch of SU that I am pretty sure I did not have to pay ap's for, but I will double checkORIGINAL: Omat
Hello
a small side note:
Normaly the ai attach SU for the new Tank army (which costs also some ap if you have some) and you also need some arments points to fill this unit. (e.g. if you have 50 ap points the ai spends not 25 point to create this army but so round about 30-35 or so to ccreate this army and some SU.
You also need some pints for an new leader. So all it costs you round about 40-50 ap to build one Trank Army. (excluding costs for attaching units which are not attach to STAVKA HQ)
Omat
RE: How to create Tank Armies?
Posted: Wed Dec 21, 2011 11:34 pm
It's 25 APs, and a number of SU's come free of charge with the unit. Not all of them are SU's you really want, though.
Unlike Rifle Corps, they don't go on sale at any date
And you might have to change the leader, costing additional APs
But Tank Armies are cool
Unlike Rifle Corps, they don't go on sale at any date
And you might have to change the leader, costing additional APs
But Tank Armies are cool
RE: How to create Tank Armies?
Posted: Thu Dec 22, 2011 7:17 am
Hello
I had this. But I also have to admit that I had little bit more that 100 ap. And the first two Tank Armies cost more than 25 ap`s. But I also saw that the number of SU is not always the same. So maybe the extra Su are the difference.
Omat
I had this. But I also have to admit that I had little bit more that 100 ap. And the first two Tank Armies cost more than 25 ap`s. But I also saw that the number of SU is not always the same. So maybe the extra Su are the difference.
Omat
ORIGINAL: Baelfiin
I recently created a couple tank army hq's and paid only 25 points. they came with a bunch of SU that I am pretty sure I did not have to pay ap's for, but I will double checkORIGINAL: Omat
Hello
a small side note:
Normaly the ai attach SU for the new Tank army (which costs also some ap if you have some) and you also need some arments points to fill this unit. (e.g. if you have 50 ap points the ai spends not 25 point to create this army but so round about 30-35 or so to ccreate this army and some SU.
You also need some pints for an new leader. So all it costs you round about 40-50 ap to build one Trank Army. (excluding costs for attaching units which are not attach to STAVKA HQ)
Omat
RE: How to create Tank Armies?
Posted: Thu Dec 22, 2011 4:36 pm
So what are the benefits of a Combined Arms HQ? Trying to figure out what HQs a Soviet player should be creating later in games (43+)
Thanks
Thanks
RE: How to create Tank Armies?
Posted: Thu Dec 22, 2011 4:48 pm
A CAA is a fancy name for a regular army.
RE: How to create Tank Armies?
Posted: Thu Dec 22, 2011 4:54 pm
Doh, ok was thinking that. Just wanted to make sure I wasn't missing out on something cool.