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Spys - not quite 007 standard?

Posted: Thu Dec 22, 2011 11:34 pm
by sPOONz
At least my spys performance is lame. Ive been sticking to 90% success rates or higher, usually trying to pinch territory maps or sabotage things. Yet the majority of my spys get caught. Is there something Im missing? Or am I being super unlucky?

When the success rate is shown, I assume this includes my spy penalties and any modifiers from the target nation? Other than doing easy missions is there any other method to train spys?

RE: Spys - not quite 007 standard?

Posted: Thu Dec 22, 2011 11:37 pm
by Nedrear
I am not sure, but I hope the counter intelligence of the enemy is not shown. That would be game breaking... we are not God to know it all.

RE: Spys - not quite 007 standard?

Posted: Fri Dec 23, 2011 1:24 am
by jpwrunyan
Who are you spying against?
I find that at 85% and up, spies might still fail or be detected, but never captured.
If you are spying against the Ketarov, well then there is your problem.

RE: Spys - not quite 007 standard?

Posted: Fri Dec 23, 2011 1:42 am
by sPOONz
Atuuks are the race im trying to do steal/sabotage missions against. Ive run out of spies now too.

"but I hope the counter intelligence of the enemy is not shown" - I totally agree. I feel also that the spies I have left on the counter intelligence mission gain bad traits. It seems they need to do 'actuall missions' in order to gain skill. Unfortunatley they keep getting captured and killed. I have just noticed tho that in their diplomacy info box (Atuuks) they are getting '15% Better Spies' from humans in their own empire. It would make sense that this 15% is already included in in my spies overall success rate. If not however, that would mean my success rate is acctually around 75% which is what it feels like.


RE: Spys - not quite 007 standard?

Posted: Fri Dec 23, 2011 3:45 am
by Gelatinous Cube
It's not. That's why a mission of 85% is considered risky.

RE: Spys - not quite 007 standard?

Posted: Fri Dec 23, 2011 4:14 am
by ehsumrell1
As G Cube stated, the enemy nations' counter-intelligence modifiers are not known to you
and are not considered in your Agents' numbers. I always try to send my Agents on missions
at 93% or better for normal missions and 95% or better for dangerous ones. [:)]

RE: Spys - not quite 007 standard?

Posted: Fri Dec 23, 2011 4:40 am
by sPOONz
Ahh, I see. Good stuff, thanks guys.