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Disappearing HQs
Posted: Sat Feb 18, 2012 9:45 pm
by BigBadWolf
I postde this in RA thread, but it can't hurt to ask here as well.
So, game is RA 4.0. Several HQs that were present on map in the first turn, in second split into two, with one part on map and the other in reinforcements cue. Here is the example.
Other issue is with 11th Air Fleet. In game it is static, which is a major headache for Japan, since it is a 5 hexes air HQ:
But in Editor, it doesn't appear it has any static devices. Is there a remedy for this?
RE: Disappearing HQs
Posted: Sat Feb 18, 2012 10:02 pm
by michaelm75au
The 88mm guns are static. Thus the HQ is static.
RE: Disappearing HQs
Posted: Sat Feb 18, 2012 10:07 pm
by michaelm75au
For the split HQ, was it being unloaded? In combat?
The 5th Air HQ doesn't show up till 10/02/45 according to editor.
RE: Disappearing HQs
Posted: Sat Feb 18, 2012 10:12 pm
by BigBadWolf
Hmm, So it seems. I confused them with 8cm/T88 AA guns, which are standard AA heavy guns in RA. Thanks, Michael.
As for the 5th, in RA it starts in Formosa. I loaded it into transports and when they arrived (warp TF) this happened. I went trhough tracker and there were also few other HQ's that suffered the same fate. One of them in Kwantung Army, just sitting there.
RE: Disappearing HQs
Posted: Sat Feb 18, 2012 10:16 pm
by BigBadWolf
5th Air division, Michale, not 5th Air Fleet.
RE: Disappearing HQs
Posted: Sat Feb 18, 2012 10:34 pm
by BigBadWolf
Nope, scratch that, 5th Aid Div, 25th Army and 14th Army. All three have been involved in the first turn landing. Neither of the ships these units were on was sunk.
RE: Disappearing HQs
Posted: Sat Feb 18, 2012 10:48 pm
by michaelm75au
Too many 5th Air ... units.[:D]
What game version are you using, and do you have the combat save of the turn that the 'split' happened.
I suspect that the parent part of the HQ was 'killed' but the fragment swap failed for some reason. The delay of 30+ would suggest this as this is the delay to return a destroyed HQ.
RE: Disappearing HQs
Posted: Sat Feb 18, 2012 11:07 pm
by BigBadWolf
The latest patch. I have the combat save but i think you need my opponents password to see it, right?
RE: Disappearing HQs
Posted: Sat Feb 18, 2012 11:36 pm
by michaelm75au
No. I can run without it.
I think I may have found an 'unload' hole in regard to HQ unloading from an Amphib TF. I would like the save to see if that is what happening and try to trace it thru the unload process.
RE: Disappearing HQs
Posted: Sun Feb 19, 2012 12:23 am
by michaelm75au
It looks like the excess 'disperses' messages may also be related to this issue with fragment size not being updating correctly.
RE: Disappearing HQs
Posted: Sun Feb 19, 2012 5:52 am
by BigBadWolf
Yes, I think I got bunch of these "disperses" messages. Here is the combat reply.
RE: Disappearing HQs
Posted: Sun Feb 19, 2012 6:29 am
by PaxMondo
I also have been getting a great deal of unit "Disperses" messages that I have not previously seen.
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14th JAAF AF Bn DISPERSES!!
48th JAAF AF Bn DISPERSES!!
2nd Base Force DISPERSES!!
Troops and Equipment from 1st Base Force , 2nd Base Force , 3rd Fleet
lost to accident during amphibious unloading from TF 108
4th JAAF AF Bn DISPERSES!!
2nd Naval Construction Battalion DISPERSES!!
3rd Naval Construction Battalion DISPERSES!!
6th Shipping Engineer Regiment DISPERSES!!
4th Field AF Construction Battalion DISPERSES!!
5th Naval Construction Battalion DISPERSES!!
6th Naval Construction Battalion DISPERSES!!
2nd Tank Regiment DISPERSES!!
Troops and Equipment from 4th JAAF AF Bn , 2nd Naval Const Bn , 3rd Naval Const Bn , 6th Shipping Engr Rgt , 4th Field AF Const Bn , 4th JAAF Base Force , 5th Naval Const Bn , 6th Naval Const Bn , 2nd Tank Rgt and other units
lost to accident during amphibious unloading from TF 110
Troops and Equipment from 65th Div lost to accident during amphibious unloading from TF 112
27th JAAF AF Bn DISPERSES!!
RE: Disappearing HQs
Posted: Sun Feb 19, 2012 7:55 am
by michaelm75au
These messages are getting generated when an empty 'parent' is being removed, before it swaps with a fragment.
This is linked back to the error in the fragment size before the swap. With the fix in place, almost all of these messages have disappeared.
I hadn't noticed many of these messages earlier.
RE: Disappearing HQs
Posted: Sun Feb 19, 2012 8:45 am
by BigBadWolf
Was it fix in latest patch? Or is it separate?
RE: Disappearing HQs
Posted: Sun Feb 19, 2012 8:51 am
by michaelm75au
Not in the last patch.
They are in my on-going running exe.
RE: Disappearing HQs
Posted: Sun Feb 19, 2012 10:10 am
by BigBadWolf
Ah, not for us mortals then [:)]
RE: Disappearing HQs
Posted: Sun Feb 19, 2012 11:06 am
by PaxMondo
s1 patch? ... today yet? [:D]
Michael, thanks for all the support!!
RE: Disappearing HQs
Posted: Mon Feb 20, 2012 7:00 am
by michaelm75au
We need to wait for the Gods to determine our path to enlightenment.[:D]