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HQ chain of command

Posted: Mon Aug 12, 2002 3:28 am
by alfonso
Is it possible to attach a HQ to another HQ?

Posted: Mon Aug 12, 2002 7:18 am
by RickyB
Yes. To do it, you must select the subordinate HQ, hit <alt>H and then move the cursor to the HQ to be the superior and hit enter.

Posted: Mon Aug 12, 2002 11:49 am
by Mikser
Oh my God, I've never seen this on the HQ menus...But this makes it virtually possible to bypass OKW/Stavka and assign the HQs to a higher HQ lead by a rating 9 leader! What is the point of such a feature?

Posted: Mon Aug 12, 2002 12:59 pm
by Preuss
In a new game, I did this...it was with Possum's v5, so you may note some differences.

I created all the Hq's Russia had to raise, strategically placing some, others according to place names...some may be incorrect due to my faulty memory...

Stavka only has 3 Hq's under it's command: Baltic Front, Central Front, and Southern front

Each of these three fronts has a leader rated at 8.

Each also has 5-7 other fronts under it's command.

In Possum's version, there are plenty of highly rated Russian leaders...a bit high for my tastes

I'm using a hedgehog defence, and with the tri-level hq scheme, I see Stalin commanding fewer combats. So...it seems to help

I'm keeping Zhukov in reserve saving him for either crisis spots, or for the hope that Stalin will delegate and give him the job.

Posted: Mon Aug 12, 2002 7:20 pm
by Ed Cogburn
Originally posted by Mikser
Oh my God, I've never seen this on the HQ menus...But this makes it virtually possible to bypass OKW/Stavka and assign the HQs to a higher HQ lead by a rating 9 leader! What is the point of such a feature?

Just like the ability to micromanage production, bypassing poor equipmrent for better ones, this feature can be abused. Perhaps a house rule should be developed for this?

I never use this feature, in fact, I set OKH to OKW, even though the game starts with OKH unassigned, for historical accuracy, and never change anything after that. Note that this doesn't appear to be necessary, but it does make more sense to show the true chain of command. Its a personal preference issue.

Posted: Mon Aug 12, 2002 8:20 pm
by alfonso
My original idea was to transfer 4th Panzer Army to Army Group South for the 1942 drive to Stalingrad after a succesful 1941 campaign. Above 90% of my armor is now located in the south, and I dont see the point in having a Panzer Army in the North. Besides, i am considering to split Army Group South using the 2nd Army as a new Army Group. But 2nd Army remains attached to OKH, so it seems fairly historic to me.

Posted: Wed Aug 14, 2002 2:00 am
by Preuss
I see I've been misunderstood. I didn't by-pass Stalin, I just put another tier of leaders in the mix. Theoretically, Stalin would command 33% of combats (vice 50%) in my game if the law of averages held up.
I couldn't by-pass him or Hitler completely as it just seems wrong. Dictators have this thing about being nullified;)
Honestly, though...how much work did stalin put into micromanaging works at the front? I've heard he put up a struggle about the Kursk plan in 43' because he didn't believe in the Russian soldier's ability to successfully wage defensive warfare...
Or, could it be that old dictatorial song: "Attack, Attack, Attack"

Posted: Wed Aug 14, 2002 3:50 pm
by Mikser
I'm not sure if I understand the mechanics of this...Is it possible to bypass, for example, Hitler by assigning all of the units normally assigned to OKW to, say, the 2nd Army, thus leaving no armies subordinated to OKW? Or does old Adolf get a chance of command interference regardless, seeing as how most of the armies are actually assigned to OKH which curiously ISN'T subordinated to the OKW? Or is it possible to assign chain upon chain upon chain of command subordinations and reduce the likelihood of a command interference?