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How long for an AI?
Posted: Mon Mar 19, 2012 10:50 am
by vonRocko
How many years will the AI version take? I will bet anyone that, once it is released, this game will never get an AI. [:(]
RE: How long for an AI?
Posted: Mon Mar 19, 2012 11:13 am
by warspite1
ORIGINAL: vonRocko
How many years will the AI version take? I will bet anyone that, once it is released, this game will never get an AI. [:(]
Warspite1
My personal feeling is that the game will never get a really challenging AI as the variables are simply too many. The best to hope for is an AI that will be sufficient to allow new players to learn the game and develop their own skills. Therafter PBEM or Netplay or hotseat would be needed to get a challenging game.
That's my 2 cents.
RE: How long for an AI?
Posted: Mon Mar 19, 2012 12:49 pm
by pzgndr
this game will never get an AI
the game will never get a really challenging AI
Why don't you knock it off with them negative waves? Why don't you dig how beautiful it is out here? Why don't you say something righteous and hopeful for a change? [:D]
RE: How long for an AI?
Posted: Mon Mar 19, 2012 1:12 pm
by Edfactor
I wish I understood how AI works better. Like how does Russia form a defensive line? Just thinking about that question and realizing how I analyze it when I'm playing makes my head spin.
First you look at the map and see how far his units can move (some move 3 some 4, 5 and 6)
can I defend this area or that area, if I back up so his 3 movers can't get to me can I defend? how about if I back up further?
Where are my fighters? my bombers? do they need to redeploy?
What about the Germans fighters and bombers?
If i am back up is it worth it to leave a lone corp in a city to slow him down?
or maybe leave 2 good coprs hoping to flip his attackers?
What about potentials for counter attacks? am I holding well enough to stand where I am, how much would a failed attack hurt me?
Do I need to pass?
RE: How long for an AI?
Posted: Mon Mar 19, 2012 1:27 pm
by Erik Rutins
We'll provide more information on that as we get closer to release. There's a lot that we still need to do to inform you all about what the release plans are and future plans after the release.
There is no question that the game will have an AI, but the AI will require extra work and our goal it so make sure the AI is competent and can provide a good challenge to new players. In the long run, this game is much better played against human opponents, which is why we are focusing on the multiplayer system first.
Regards,
- Erik
RE: How long for an AI?
Posted: Mon Mar 19, 2012 1:33 pm
by warspite1
ORIGINAL: pzgndr
this game will never get an AI
the game will never get a really challenging AI
Why don't you knock it off with them negative waves? Why don't you dig how beautiful it is out here? Why don't you say something righteous and hopeful for a change? [:D]
Warspite1
Not many people are more positive about this game than me.
What I said was not a criticism - more a statement of fact as I see it (my opinion of course may be - and invariably is - wrong [;)]) I hope so in this case, but regardless, is not a reason for not buying the game.
RE: How long for an AI?
Posted: Mon Mar 19, 2012 1:45 pm
by vonRocko
ORIGINAL: pzgndr
Why don't you knock it off with them negative waves? Why don't you dig how beautiful it is out here? Why don't you say something righteous and hopeful for a change? [:D]
CRAP![:)]
RE: How long for an AI?
Posted: Mon Mar 19, 2012 4:06 pm
by Shannon V. OKeets
ORIGINAL: vonRocko
ORIGINAL: pzgndr
Why don't you knock it off with them negative waves? Why don't you dig how beautiful it is out here? Why don't you say something righteous and hopeful for a change? [:D]
CRAP![:)]
For those who do not recognize this dialog, it is taken from Kelly's Heroes. The first line is from Oddball and it is one of my personal favorites.
RE: How long for an AI?
Posted: Mon Mar 19, 2012 4:17 pm
by Edfactor
My favorite line is "Call the guy up, maybe we can make a deal." "What kind of a deal?" "You know a deal deal, maybe the guys a republican."
Edit
Almost as good: "This bank isn't going to fall into the hands of the American Army, it's goin to fall into our hands."
RE: How long for an AI?
Posted: Mon Mar 19, 2012 4:17 pm
by Centuur
ORIGINAL: Shannon V. OKeets
ORIGINAL: vonRocko
ORIGINAL: pzgndr
Why don't you knock it off with them negative waves? Why don't you dig how beautiful it is out here? Why don't you say something righteous and hopeful for a change? [:D]
CRAP![:)]
For those who do not recognize this dialog, it is taken from Kelly's Heroes. The first line is from Oddball and it is one of my personal favorites.
Ahh... The hippies in the Sherman, going after a couple of Tigers, weren't they. Something with a bank, wasn't it. An amusing movie indeed...
RE: How long for an AI?
Posted: Mon Mar 19, 2012 7:07 pm
by Klydon
"I'm drinkin' wine, and eatin' cheese and catchin' some rays, y'know!"
RE: How long for an AI?
Posted: Tue Mar 20, 2012 12:01 am
by FJeff
ORIGINAL: Erik Rutins
We'll provide more information on that as we get closer to release. There's a lot that we still need to do to inform you all about what the release plans are and future plans after the release.
There is no question that the game will have an AI, but the AI will require extra work and our goal it so make sure the AI is competent and can provide a good challenge to new players. In the long run, this game is much better played against human opponents, which is why we are focusing on the multiplayer system first.
Regards,
- Erik
And seldom is heard a discouraging word...
But this is pretty discouraging.
RE: How long for an AI?
Posted: Tue Mar 20, 2012 2:38 am
by JeffroK
Sadly,
Kelly's Heroes is taken for a documentry by far too many who inhabit these forumz,
Next they'll be quoting from Pearl Harbor (TMTSNBN).
RE: How long for an AI?
Posted: Tue Mar 20, 2012 3:59 am
by HansHafen
Kelly's Heroes isn't factual!?!?! I home schooled myself on all these movies and now you are telling me they ain't right?! My diploma is worthless now....
RE: How long for an AI?
Posted: Tue Mar 20, 2012 4:41 am
by JeffroK
ORIGINAL: HansHafen
Kelly's Heroes isn't factual!?!?! I home schooled myself on all these movies and now you are telling me they ain't right?! My diploma is worthless now....
Well its based on fact,
There was a WW2.
RE: How long for an AI?
Posted: Tue Mar 20, 2012 9:08 am
by Rasputitsa
ORIGINAL: JeffK
Sadly,
Kelly's Heroes is taken for a documentry by far too many who inhabit these forumz,
Next they'll be quoting from Pearl Harbor (TMTSNBN).
They did try to create something that looked like a Tiger, even if they were T34s underneath. Great movie. [:)]
RE: How long for an AI?
Posted: Tue Mar 20, 2012 10:38 am
by Klydon
ORIGINAL: JeffK
Sadly,
Kelly's Heroes is taken for a documentry by far too many who inhabit these forumz,
Next they'll be quoting from Pearl Harbor (TMTSNBN).
And you know this how?
Nice job insulting the community. [:-]
I guess we should all just bow to your superior knowledge. [&o]
Sheesh, give me a break.
RE: How long for an AI?
Posted: Tue Mar 20, 2012 10:39 am
by Klydon
Got to love double posts.
Not! [:@]
RE: How long for an AI?
Posted: Tue Mar 20, 2012 12:29 pm
by ItBurns
ORIGINAL: FJeff
ORIGINAL: Erik Rutins
We'll provide more information on that as we get closer to release. There's a lot that we still need to do to inform you all about what the release plans are and future plans after the release.
There is no question that the game will have an AI, but the AI will require extra work and our goal it so make sure the AI is competent and can provide a good challenge to new players. In the long run, this game is much better played against human opponents, which is why we are focusing on the multiplayer system first.
Regards,
- Erik
And seldom is heard a discouraging word...
But this is pretty discouraging.
Always with the negative waves. The bridge will be there.
RE: How long for an AI?
Posted: Tue Mar 20, 2012 4:04 pm
by warspite1
ORIGINAL: JeffK
Next they'll be quoting from Pearl Harbor (TMTSNBN).
Warspite1
Very funny JeffK - you'll be telling me next that Rafe McCauley didn't really exist.