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IJNAF and IJAAF Photo Site
Posted: Sat Mar 31, 2012 8:47 pm
by Mac Linehan
My sincere appreciation to Commander Stormwolf for the links:
http://www.ijnafphotos.com/
and
http://www.ijaafphotos.com/
Note - my copy and paste does not work for some reason, I hope that this takes.
Mac
RE: IJNAF and IJAAF Photo Site
Posted: Sat Mar 31, 2012 8:51 pm
by treespider
Nice
RE: IJNAF and IJAAF Photo Site
Posted: Sat Mar 31, 2012 9:32 pm
by ilovestrategy
I saw some planes with male names. I thought they were all female.
RE: IJNAF and IJAAF Photo Site
Posted: Sun Apr 01, 2012 1:23 am
by Mac Linehan
ORIGINAL: ilovestrategy
I saw some planes with male names. I thought they were all female.
Some time ago, when reading a history on the Pacific War (Roland Spectre "Eagle against the Sun" IIRC), there was a paragraph about the intelligence department who came up with the code names. The list included both male and female names. To my embarrassment, I do not recall all the details.
Mac
RE: IJNAF and IJAAF Photo Site
Posted: Sun Apr 01, 2012 2:14 am
by Torplexed
ORIGINAL: Mac Linehan
ORIGINAL: ilovestrategy
I saw some planes with male names. I thought they were all female.
Some time ago, when reading a history on the Pacific War (Roland Spectre "Eagle against the Sun" IIRC), there was a paragraph about the intelligence department who came up with the code names. The list included both male and female names. To my embarrassment, I do not recall all the details.
Mac
In 1942, the American Technical Air Intelligence Unit, headed by Col. Frank McCoy, decreed that all Japanese military aircraft should thence-forward be referred to by an assigned Christian name. Male names for fighters and female names for just about everything else. Variants were described by an Arabic numeral. Inevitably some errors crept into the system. For example, the Zero-sen was christened 'Zeke', but when the clipped-wing version of the Zero-sen appeared, the Allies mis-identified it as a new type and called it 'Hap'. Then, when USAAF General "Hap' Arnold objected to this use of his nickname, the plane was re-christened 'Hamp'. Finally, when it was discovered that 'Hamp' was really 'Zeke', the plane had to be re-named again, ending the war as 'Zeke 32'.
Still, it was probably a more familiar system than the more bewildering (to the Allies) Japanese nomenclature.
RE: IJNAF and IJAAF Photo Site
Posted: Sun Apr 01, 2012 6:15 am
by ilovestrategy
Gotchya. Thanks for the info!
RE: IJNAF and IJAAF Photo Site
Posted: Sun Apr 01, 2012 6:38 am
by Xavier5733
Nice links !
Many thanks for sharing it [;)]
RE: IJNAF and IJAAF Photo Site
Posted: Sun Apr 01, 2012 11:12 am
by Commander Stormwolf
Little known is that the manufacturer code / model was not really used by the japanese
If you were flying a Ki-61-IIa .. you would just say
"Type 3 Fighter" or "Hien-Kai"
RE: IJNAF and IJAAF Photo Site
Posted: Sun Apr 01, 2012 2:14 pm
by DuckofTindalos
If you exchange "little known" for "well known", then you're right.
RE: IJNAF and IJAAF Photo Site
Posted: Sun Apr 01, 2012 2:41 pm
by Mac Linehan
ORIGINAL: Torplexed
ORIGINAL: Mac Linehan
ORIGINAL: ilovestrategy
I saw some planes with male names. I thought they were all female.
Some time ago, when reading a history on the Pacific War (Roland Spectre "Eagle against the Sun" IIRC), there was a paragraph about the intelligence department who came up with the code names. The list included both male and female names. To my embarrassment, I do not recall all the details.
Mac
In 1942, the American Technical Air Intelligence Unit, headed by Col. Frank McCoy, decreed that all Japanese military aircraft should thence-forward be referred to by an assigned Christian name. Male names for fighters and female names for just about everything else. Variants were described by an Arabic numeral. Inevitably some errors crept into the system. For example, the Zero-sen was christened 'Zeke', but when the clipped-wing version of the Zero-sen appeared, the Allies mis-identified it as a new type and called it 'Hap'. Then, when USAAF General "Hap' Arnold objected to this use of his nickname, the plane was re-christened 'Hamp'. Finally, when it was discovered that 'Hamp' was really 'Zeke', the plane had to be re-named again, ending the war as 'Zeke 32'.
Still, it was probably a more familiar system than the more bewildering (to the Allies) Japanese nomenclature.
Torplexed -
Thank You for the clarification!
And:
That is an
awesome avatar...
Mac
RE: IJNAF and IJAAF Photo Site
Posted: Sun Apr 01, 2012 4:55 pm
by mikkey
bookmarked, thanks for sharing Mac
RE: IJNAF and IJAAF Photo Site
Posted: Sun Apr 01, 2012 5:17 pm
by cohimbra
I take this post to ask why the names of the Japanese bombers sounds
like American pin-up names:Kate, Lily, Betty, Helen... was a provocation? or what?
RE: IJNAF and IJAAF Photo Site
Posted: Sun Apr 01, 2012 5:25 pm
by Mac Linehan
mikkey -
I was only able to post because Commander Stormwolf graciously supplied the links.
He deserves the credit.
We are both appreciative of your remarks.
Mac
RE: IJNAF and IJAAF Photo Site
Posted: Sun Apr 01, 2012 6:11 pm
by Torplexed
ORIGINAL: cohimbra
I take this post to ask why the names of the Japanese bombers sounds
like American pin-up names:Kate, Lily, Betty, Helen... was a provocation? or what?
Here's a wikipedia link if you wish to learn more about the Allied naming of Japanese aircraft. I'm not so sure it was a provocation. The Val was actually named after an Australian Army sergeant.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/World_War_ ... e_aircraft
RE: IJNAF and IJAAF Photo Site
Posted: Sun Apr 01, 2012 6:50 pm
by cohimbra
@Torplexed
Thanks for the link, very interesting.
RE: IJNAF and IJAAF Photo Site
Posted: Mon Apr 02, 2012 10:56 am
by LeeChard
Great Site!
RE: IJNAF and IJAAF Photo Site
Posted: Mon Apr 02, 2012 1:01 pm
by Empire101
Great pictures...thanks for sharing
RE: IJNAF and IJAAF Photo Site
Posted: Mon Apr 02, 2012 2:31 pm
by John 3rd
NICE site.