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Updates for Stock Scenarios
Posted: Sun Apr 29, 2012 1:49 pm
by JWE
Was tweaking Andy Mac's new Scen02 with the AAA and ASW fixes and thought, heck, why not ! So updated all the Stock GC scenarios with AAA, ASW, Super-E, fixes. All on the Babes website.
Scen01_War in the Pacific_The Full Campaign vj1
Scen02_War in the Pacific_Hakko Ichiu vj1
Scen06_December 8_The Full Campaign vj1
Scen07_War in the Pacific_The Full Campaign (Quiet China) vj1
Scen08_War in the Pacific_Hakko Ichiu (Quiet China) vj1
Scen09_December 8_The Full Campaign (Quiet China) vj1
Simple drop in and replace, using the existing AI files. Not updatable for in-progress games, restart required. Maybe Michaelm will gratuitously stamp them, if you ask nice. Maybe, too, these will be the standard for any future data patch (not likely, but you never know).
Ciao. J
RE: Updates for Stock Scenarios
Posted: Sun Apr 29, 2012 1:54 pm
by Dan Nichols
That's cool. Thank you.
RE: Updates for Stock Scenarios
Posted: Sun Apr 29, 2012 2:14 pm
by Rainer
RE: Updates for Stock Scenarios
Posted: Sun Apr 29, 2012 2:18 pm
by Andy Mac
Fantastic ta
RE: Updates for Stock Scenarios
Posted: Sun Apr 29, 2012 3:23 pm
by Halsey
Added to my AE update folder.
Thanks for your fantastic work.[&o]
RE: Updates for Stock Scenarios
Posted: Sun Apr 29, 2012 3:26 pm
by SuluSea
Thanks for the effort John , I'll definately be using these from here on out. [:)]
RE: Updates for Stock Scenarios
Posted: Sun Apr 29, 2012 8:10 pm
by oldman45
Thanks pal!
RE: Updates for Stock Scenarios
Posted: Sun Apr 29, 2012 9:36 pm
by Kitakami
Many thanks! MUCH appreciated!
RE: Updates for Stock Scenarios
Posted: Sun Apr 29, 2012 9:40 pm
by John 3rd
You have TOO MUCH time on your hands Sir. Thanks!
RE: Updates for Stock Scenarios
Posted: Sun Apr 29, 2012 10:06 pm
by Andy Mac
Need to get them stamped somehow before they will update ongoing games
Thanks John (have you asked michael if he can stamp them ?)
RE: Updates for Stock Scenarios
Posted: Sun Apr 29, 2012 10:53 pm
by drw61
Thanks John! Downloading now
RE: Updates for Stock Scenarios
Posted: Mon Apr 30, 2012 2:02 pm
by JWE
ORIGINAL: Andy Mac
Need to get them stamped somehow before they will update ongoing games
Thanks John (have you asked michael if he can stamp them ?)
Nope, haven't looked into stamping for updating. Not sure I want to do that because I would be opening a rather large can of worms [;)]
Ran an update report and got over 300 blivets that exist in the stock locations files: ran it for both stock/stock and my updated/stock and same errors showed up so it's not from the fixes. Many are benign, but a lot are fairly grim; units with level-2 TOEs that have different entries, and are further different from the primary units, and woof !! No wonder Michaelm was going spastic with wierd upgrade stuff.
So am fixing all those, which means LCUs and Ships will have update 'issues', and people being people, they will complain if everything doesn't update just perfect. So I'd just as soon not go there [:D]
[ed] maybe, after the smoke clears, and we see just what's happening, that might be a good thing. Not exactly the right time to do a "data patch 3" if ya know what I mean, but once everything settles, it might be a very nice way to proceed.
RE: Updates for Stock Scenarios
Posted: Mon Apr 30, 2012 7:16 pm
by Andy Mac
Understood John I have run this in my game with pzb wi no I'll effects so far
I would only release as caveat emptor scenes I.e. we won't fix it if something goes wrong but try it if you want type thing
Will attempt to get it stamped and re test impact on ongoing games maybe best not to release not sure yet
Good news.i agree gives us a fantastic baseline for new games
Ta
Andy
RE: Updates for Stock Scenarios
Posted: Mon Apr 30, 2012 10:07 pm
by mikkey
excellent work, thanks JWE. Do you planning update Guadalcanal stock scenario or Marianas scenario?
RE: Updates for Stock Scenarios
Posted: Thu May 03, 2012 3:34 pm
by JWE
ORIGINAL: mikkey
excellent work, thanks JWE. Do you planning update Guadalcanal stock scenario or Marianas scenario?
No, not really. Updates are for stock "GC" scenarios, that might not be appropriate for the small scens. We'll think on it, but I really don't believe it would be effective, in the margins. Ciao. J
RE: Updates for Stock Scenarios
Posted: Thu May 03, 2012 7:03 pm
by mikkey
oki, thanks for answer JWE
RE: Updates for Stock Scenarios
Posted: Fri May 04, 2012 1:18 pm
by JWE
The main reason, mikkey, is that the smaller scenarios were done by different people, waaayy back at the very beginning, when the database wasn't fully established. Terminus did the Thousand Mile War, Joe Wilkerson did the Coral Sea, Nikademus did Guadalcanal, AndyMac did the Marianas, Buccaneer, and Downfall. They all used different versions of 'stuff' in different ways. So getting them all lined up is a big task.
Not to say it can't be done, just that we would have to understand exactly what each person did and why, before we would feel comfortable 'adjusting' it for a stock release. We are working on Babes versions of some of these, as well as a few others of our own. But nothing compatible with 'stock' release, at this time.
RE: Updates for Stock Scenarios
Posted: Fri May 04, 2012 7:33 pm
by mikkey
Yes, working with scenarios of different people is not easy. I watch DaBabes scenarios and his various modifications and changes and I would like to try them but Grand Campaign is too big a bite for me. The scale and scope of Guadalcanal and Marianas scenarios are ideal for me. Thanks for the detailed reply JWE a also thanks for modified Guadalcanal scenario.
RE: Updates for Stock Scenarios
Posted: Mon May 14, 2012 1:24 pm
by JWE
ORIGINAL: mikkey
Yes, working with scenarios of different people is not easy. I watch DaBabes scenarios and his various modifications and changes and I would like to try them but Grand Campaign is too big a bite for me. The scale and scope of Guadalcanal and Marianas scenarios are ideal for me. Thanks for the detailed reply JWE a also thanks for modified Guadalcanal scenario.
Well, wouldn't you know it, Nik asked if would be possible to update Guadalcanal Scen04, and I believe Terminus has no issues with updating 1,000 Mile War Scen05, so it looks like you get your wish, mikkey [8D]
[ed] won't be the Babes version, but it will have all the AAA and ASW goodies (just like the GC scenarios) and be organized so they can get any future updates as a simple "drop in" (just like the GC scenarios).
RE: Updates for Stock Scenarios
Posted: Mon May 14, 2012 3:26 pm
by Keifer
ORIGINAL: JWE
Was tweaking Andy Mac's new Scen02 with the AAA and ASW fixes and thought, heck, why not ! So updated all the Stock GC scenarios with AAA, ASW, Super-E, fixes. All on the Babes website.
Is there a link to what the fixes are? and what gameplay effect they have? I couldn't find an obvious post searching the forum.
Am restarting an AI game as Allies using the new scenario #2.
Thanks, Keith