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LCU squads disabled in combat
Posted: Wed May 02, 2012 10:20 am
by Chris21wen
I just made an attack on Tavoy using 3 x inf div, 3 x ind Bde and 2 x inf Bn. The ratio of disabled inf sqds in the smaller organisations was much greater than the larger organisations. The figures below are not those immediately after the combat but two turns later so would have been even worse.
Disabled/not Disabled/% disabled to undisable after the combat
Divisions
49/311/16
32/309/10
82/259/31
Bde
12/88/14
40/68/59
40/68/59
Bn
26/10/260
39/13/300
All units started off with only one or two disabled units. Has anybody else noticed this. I will monitor it.
RE: LCU squads disabled in combat
Posted: Wed May 02, 2012 10:38 am
by BigBadWolf
Smaller units always get more punishment in combat, it's always been the case in the game.
RE: LCU squads disabled in combat
Posted: Wed May 02, 2012 12:25 pm
by Puhis
Like he said. That's why I use battalions only for garrison or defense duty.
RE: LCU squads disabled in combat
Posted: Wed May 02, 2012 1:47 pm
by Rob Brennan UK
I'm a great believer in combining the odd fragments of allied troops in Malaysia and Burma early war. The full divs last a lot longer in combat than individual regiments.
However I have had problems with one Aussie Division that I just cannot recombine due to the awful replacement rates of 43 infantry. Kinda my fault but recent patch allows for stockpiling of individual type of troops/tanks/guns etc. Did the same with the Chinese too. Lesson learned on that score so beware breaking down units and leaving the upgrade and replacement path on. for the Indians its not too much of an issue as they get more men as the game progresses, but beware Aussie units, losing 30 inf43 to a base units can be v painful in the long run. Wish I could swop them out for militia and use the 43 squads in my 1st Aussie div which I suspect will have militia until the end of the war for now. [;)]
Have fun tinkering.
RE: LCU squads disabled in combat
Posted: Wed May 02, 2012 3:04 pm
by rjopel
The current patch has a switch to turn on automatic upgrade of obsolete squads. The IJ player has to make the switch in PBEM but you as the squads become obsolete they will automatically upgrade to the next version. Also the 30xINF 43 when they upgrade a force the 30xOLDGUHYS automatically become 30xINF43's. I managed to upgrade 70+INF42 to INF43 with only 6 INF43's in the pool.
RE: LCU squads disabled in combat
Posted: Wed May 02, 2012 3:49 pm
by Puhis
Japan produce squads when needed. It takes just manpower points and armament points. Japan do not produce squads in pool.
RE: LCU squads disabled in combat
Posted: Wed May 02, 2012 7:17 pm
by Smeulders
ORIGINAL: Rob Brennan UK
I'm a great believer in combining the odd fragments of allied troops in Malaysia and Burma early war. The full divs last a lot longer in combat than individual regiments.
However I have had problems with one Aussie Division that I just cannot recombine due to the awful replacement rates of 43 infantry. Kinda my fault but recent patch allows for stockpiling of individual type of troops/tanks/guns etc. Did the same with the Chinese too. Lesson learned on that score so beware breaking down units and leaving the upgrade and replacement path on. for the Indians its not too much of an issue as they get more men as the game progresses, but beware Aussie units, losing 30 inf43 to a base units can be v painful in the long run. Wish I could swop them out for militia and use the 43 squads in my 1st Aussie div which I suspect will have militia until the end of the war for now. [;)]
Have fun tinkering.
Upgrading the base forces should not do anything to the pools of 43' squads (you lose .5 squads for every disabled squad upgrading, but that shouldn't be a huge drain). One favourite trick for me is to first upgrade an Australian Bn or two and disband them. This gives an instant boost to the pools allowing larger formations to upgrade. You can set the bn to return in 120 (?) days, so you can fill them out again and repeat when the next squad type becomes available.
Of course, you probably lost the 43' squads to base forces that haven't been fully filled out yet, it's true they are a pain to manage sometimes.
(As a little adendum, why oh why do the squads in the pools not upgrade. I know that might get the new squads into action a bit too soon, but I hate the micromanagement of trying to rid the pools of 200 militia squads before everything is upgraded and they become useless.)