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I understand how to make groups but don't understand how they move. I selct one, move it, select another, move it and then the group disbands. What am I missing? Thanks.

It actually shouldn't be disbanding if, on your turn, you activate one of the units in that group first before activating any others.

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A Group Move only works where the units are in the same or adjacent hexes - did you perhaps move a unit away?

Yeah, I don't understand it either. I select three or four units. One of them has a yellow border, and the others have a red border. When I move the yellow bordered unit, it moves by itself, and the others stay where they are? I don't get it. What is the advantage?

The advantage is that you get to move all the units in the group before your opponent gets a chance to react.

OK. I was thinking that when you move one member of a group, they all move, keeping the formation.

No, they move individually and you have to keep them contiguous. Also recall that group fire gives a bonus and is a great way to crack a tough nut (like a KV!!).

Group fire observations: I think its the last unit you pick in your group that becomes the fireleader-as he is green and the others are red-APs costs and the initial fire value # comes from him, and the others will be +1.

Also I think that your unit must be able to provide a positive value, after terrain mods are in effect, to get that +1 added-so a 2 FP rifle team firing at a guy in the woods that has a -2 mod will not add to the group? I might be mistaken or clicking in the wrong sequence but I think this is correct. I always thought in the board game you just need a +# at the outset, prior to terrain mods to get that +1 added to the group fireleader but I might be wrong about that as well

If you use the Free Move card on one unit in a group, do the other units benefit from it as well?

Card actions work the same on a group as they do on a single unit. So something like move 2 hexes actually works to your best advantage when you can group move since then you are multiplying the effect. Another example would be to use hasty defense on a group then all would get the benefit at once. But in practice finding working opportunities like this is hard.

What are the downsides of forming groups? or is it just understood that you should *always* form groups whenever possible, in order to get the group fire bonus and have the ability to move several of your units before the enemy has a chance to react? (seems a quite powerful tactic -- almost to the point of being an exploit??) anyway, love to hear what the disadvantages are --

Well one disadvantage is that if you used all your units first, your opponent will be able to do whatever he wants without you being able to react.

What Joram said [:)] Also you get fewer attacks when you attack with grouped units. Groups have to stick together to remain as a group, which may limit the tactical options you can take with grouped units.

I don't think I've ever seen the A.I. group units. I don't know if that's because it can't, or because it knows it shouldn't.