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supply system

Posted: Thu Aug 09, 2012 10:30 am
by fulcrum28
im playing german side in kharkov 43, i see that around cities there is blue icons showing my supply.
when i move units far from city i see icons in yellow/brown color denoting the suply.

what does the color mean?
Why the dupply is around 33% even in the source far from the front line and not 100%?

Thank you.

RE: supply system

Posted: Thu Aug 09, 2012 10:39 am
by fulcrum28
tm.asp?m=3159895

you can see screenshot here

RE: supply system

Posted: Thu Aug 09, 2012 10:43 am
by Oberst_Klink
Fulcrum,

it would take (me at least) a page to explain the details of supply etc.

I strongly recommend to read through 9.1.7 supply (advanced rules) in the manual and various articles, such as -

http://www.theblitz.org/articles/Articl ... show&id=60
tm.asp?m=1608252&mpage=1&key=Supply&#1615129
tm.asp?m=1754345&mpage=1&key=Supply&#1754345

The last thread explains most of your questions.

Klink, Oberst

P.S. As you seem to be a fan of Kharkov '43 from Joao, I finished the beta for 3.4 and you can give it a go as beta tester, too?

RE: supply system

Posted: Thu Aug 09, 2012 12:25 pm
by Curtis Lemay
ORIGINAL: fulcrum28

im playing german side in kharkov 43, i see that around cities there is blue icons showing my supply.
when i move units far from city i see icons in yellow/brown color denoting the suply.

what does the color mean?
Why the dupply is around 33% even in the source far from the front line and not 100%?

Thank you.

The blue color means only the blue side (you) can trace supply to that hex. Red means only the red side can do so. Gold means both sides can do so.

The supply values shown are relative to the Force Supply Level. So, in this scenario, your side must have a FSL around 33.

You also have "No Borders" turned on (and low Theater Recon), so you only see the Gold supply indicators when you move a unit to somewhere that hadn't been observed before the move.

RE: supply system

Posted: Thu Aug 09, 2012 12:57 pm
by fulcrum28
thank you very much

RE: supply system

Posted: Fri Aug 10, 2012 6:58 am
by fulcrum28
is it the supply radio set to 4 hex? is there a way to know the supply radio for each scenario?

RE: supply system

Posted: Fri Aug 10, 2012 7:15 am
by fulcrum28
instead of computing the distance(Radius) between rails or roads to your units to figure out your supply level, we can basically rely on the number display inside each supply icon, right?
I think the engine already computes this and the result is shown as this number.

RE: supply system

Posted: Fri Aug 10, 2012 9:16 am
by Oberst_Klink
ORIGINAL: fulcrum28

is it the supply radio set to 4 hex? is there a way to know the supply radio for each scenario?
There is. I recommend to use Andy's Scenario Viewer, which gives you all the information you might require without using the inbuilt editor of TOAW.

Here is the link: http://homepage.ntlworld.com/a.edmiston/toawviewer.htm

Remember, the supply radius can be changed with the help of events (see screenshot).

Hope that helped.

Klink, Oberst

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RE: supply system

Posted: Fri Aug 10, 2012 9:22 am
by fulcrum28
great information! thanks a lot!

RE: supply system

Posted: Fri Aug 10, 2012 11:10 am
by sPzAbt653
ORIGINAL: fulcrum28

instead of computing the distance(Radius) between rails or roads to your units to figure out your supply level, we can basically rely on the number display inside each supply icon, right?
I think the engine already computes this and the result is shown as this number.

The basic number is shown on the map, but that can be modified by Formation Supply Distribution and a few other things. The best way to tell what is going on is to find a unit that can be left out of action for a turn and then check how much supply it gains by not moving or being involved in combats.

RE: supply system

Posted: Fri Aug 10, 2012 11:47 am
by Telumar
ORIGINAL: fulcrum28

is it the supply radio set to 4 hex? is there a way to know the supply radio for each scenario?

Note that supply radius is displayed in the Unit info screen of supply units.

RE: supply system

Posted: Fri Aug 10, 2012 12:02 pm
by Oberst_Klink
ORIGINAL: Telumar

ORIGINAL: fulcrum28

is it the supply radio set to 4 hex? is there a way to know the supply radio for each scenario?

Note that supply radius is displayed in the Unit info screen of supply units.
As the Meister said, here's the screenshot of the Supply Unit of the 1.Panzer Armee.

Klink, Oberst

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