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Case Blue: Bwheatley vs 'The Russian Rat' abulbulian (no abulbulian)
Posted: Thu Aug 09, 2012 5:33 pm
by bwheatley
This will be the home of my AAR vs abulbulian as germany.
Step 1:
My first act as CiC i re-designated every unit to be based on a less confusing format.
#K for infantry korps
# PK for panzer korps
Our general strategy will be to a little haphazard this time as i'm not german mastermind. In my first AI games i tried hard to encircle vast swaths ala WITE. With shorter turns i will have to bite off smaller portions of the front at a time. The first couple turns will be critical.
I hope Abulbulian stays and fights so i can pocket. But if he follows the historic model that the soviets pulled back much more freely in 1942 then we shall chase them into the hinterland.
We're hoping we can convince hitler that we don't need stalingrad but use soviet rivers to protect our flanks for the drive to baku.
RE: Case Blue: Bwheatley vs 'The Russian Rat' abulbulian (no abulbulian)
Posted: Fri Aug 10, 2012 3:52 am
by bwheatley
Reports are in for T1. Not sure how i did but
I killed 55K soviets with a lost myself of 15K.
I'll get some screenshots and start putting together reports tomorrow.
RE: Case Blue: Bwheatley vs 'The Russian Rat' abulbulian (no abulbulian)
Posted: Fri Aug 10, 2012 4:49 am
by olivier34
A new AAR ! Really cool. Do you want to keep your pps and use the prestige points that you could get to play the "no stalingrad card" ?
A lot of losses in the first turn. Have you attack the ennemy airfields ?
RE: Case Blue: Bwheatley vs 'The Russian Rat' abulbulian (no abulbulian)
Posted: Fri Aug 10, 2012 3:00 pm
by bwheatley
Yea a lot of losses I had actually played the first turn 75% of the way earlier then threw it into bitcasa to finish when i got home. But bitcasa ate it so i had to re-run the turn and this time the random rolls were less in my favor. I'm doign the screenshots now.
We have pbem protection off so we can both go back and do AAR shiz. Yea i attacked a few airfields with results less in my favor then last time i ran the turn. The luck of the draw.
RE: Case Blue: Bwheatley vs 'The Russian Rat' abulbulian (no abulbulian)
Posted: Fri Aug 10, 2012 3:52 pm
by bwheatley
Casualties
Well these look bad but when i re-opened the first game where abulbulian was germany he killed 51k and lost 12.5k.
So i feel like 55k-15.9k is still in the ballpark.
My general play style as germany typically turns towards attack attack attack (stalin style) and i'll make good progress until my losses start to compound and i lose the ability to push forward. From there is it the slow withdraw against the soviet rubber band. You just push as far as you can before the soviet rubber band eventually throws you back with force.
RE: Case Blue: Bwheatley vs 'The Russian Rat' abulbulian (no abulbulian)
Posted: Fri Aug 10, 2012 3:53 pm
by bwheatley
Fighter Losses
5 to 1 i will take those any day of the week.
RE: Case Blue: Bwheatley vs 'The Russian Rat' abulbulian (no abulbulian)
Posted: Fri Aug 10, 2012 4:13 pm
by bwheatley
Tank Losses
My first impression was fuck that's a lot of losses 75(me)/15(him).
Though when i compared to ara's last game it was 65(him)/15(me) so i'm still in the ballpark.
RE: Case Blue: Bwheatley vs 'The Russian Rat' abulbulian (no abulbulian)
Posted: Fri Aug 10, 2012 5:15 pm
by bwheatley
Northern Front
4th Panzer Army - Commander H. Hoth
General Situation - Attacking with
2nd Army towards the city of
Voronezh. Bypassing enemy strong points to get into their rear and disrupt communications.
4th Panzer Korps - Commander W. Kempf
Opposition -
40A
GD PzD,24PzD - Advancing SE between
RSJAWA and
Stary-Oskol. Light resistance from 40A elements.
5th Panzer Korps - Commander E. Straube
Opposition -
40A,13A
82ID - Korp reserve biouvacing 10km north of
Schigry for a few days to look for opportunities to exploit.
11PzD - Advancing SE with
GD PzD,24PzD
385ID - Advancing east towards
Kastornoye
6th Panzer Korps - Commander W. von Langermann
Opposition -
40A,13A
9PzD - Advancing NE towards
Livny
3MotD - Advancing east towards
Kastornoye
377ID - Attacking across the front to open exploit avenues for the
9PzD,3MotD
RE: Case Blue: Bwheatley vs 'The Russian Rat' abulbulian (no abulbulian)
Posted: Fri Aug 10, 2012 5:46 pm
by bwheatley
Northern Front
2nd Army - Commander H. von Salmuth
General Situation - Attacking with 4th Panzer Army towards the city of Voronezh. Bypassing enemy strong points to get into their rear and disrupt communications.
17th Korps - Commander E. Vierow
Opposition - 40A,13A
45ID - Attacking NE towards Livny
95ID - Advancing SE towards Tim to help contain a pocket of 2 soviet RD
299ID - 2 Regiments attacking NE towards Livny. 1 Regiment has moved East to help protect the flanks of the panzers.
654PzBn - Attacking east towards 40A
1SS.MotB - Attacked NE towards Livny. Then disengaged to the south to rest for the push to the East.
RE: Case Blue: Bwheatley vs 'The Russian Rat' abulbulian (no abulbulian)
Posted: Fri Aug 10, 2012 6:23 pm
by bwheatley
6th Army - Commander F. Paulus
General Situation - Attacking all along the front
13th Korps - Commander W. Heitz
Opposition -
21A,13A
389ID,305ID,376ID - Attacking NE towards
Korotscha to cut off retreat paths.
14th Korps - Commander W. von Seydlitz-Kurbach
Opposition -
38A,28A
62ID,71ID,297ID - Preparing to advance east after the bridge over the
Oskol river is captured at
Kupyansk
44ID,384ID - Attacking SE and secured the bridge over the
Oskol at
Kupyansk
15th Korps - Commander A. Hollidt
Opposition -
28A
113ID,79ID,294ID, - Attacking eastward to
Valyuki
16th Korps - Commander H. von Obstfelder
Opposition -
40A,21A
57ID,168ID - Attacking across the front to open exploit avenues for mobile units.
75ID - Attacking across the front and pushing east towards
Stary-Oskol
21st Korps - Commander G. Stumme
Opposition -
28A
23PzD,3PzD - Advancing NE towards
Livny
336ID,29ID,100ID - Attacking across the front and pushing east towards
Stary-Oskol
7th Panzer Korps - Commander E. Hell
Opposition -
40A,13A
16MotD - Advancing east towards
Stary-Oskol
387ID - Attacking across the front to open exploit avenues for mobile units.
RE: Case Blue: Bwheatley vs 'The Russian Rat' abulbulian (no abulbulian)
Posted: Fri Aug 10, 2012 6:36 pm
by bwheatley
1st Panzer Army - Commander E. von Kliest
General Situation - Attacking all along the front and trying to get closer to Rostov
1st Panzer Korps - Commander G. von Wietersheim
Opposition -
12A
14PzD,60MotD - Attacking NE towards
Artemovsk.
2nd Panzer Korps - Commander L. G. von Schweppenburg
Opposition -
37A
22PzD,LahPzD,16PzD,191PzBn - Attacking NE towards
Lisitchansk. We have left 2 encircled divisions behind us.
19th Korps - Commander M. de Angelis
Opposition -
28A
257ID,101ID - Attacking eastward to
Lisitchansk
68ID - Korp reserve
97JD - Attacking NE towards
Lisitchansk
22ndKorps - Commander K. Strecker
Opposition -
37A
1MtnD - Attacking eastward to
Lisitchansk
2Rom.MtnD- Attacking NE to
Lisitchansk
21st Korps - Commander G. Stumme
Opposition -
28A
23PzD,3PzD - Advancing NE towards
Livny
336ID,29ID,100ID - Attacking across the front and pushing east towards
Stary-Oskol
7th Panzer Korps - Commander E. Hell
Opposition -
40A,13A
16MotD - Advancing east towards
Stary-Oskol
387ID - Attacking across the front to open exploit avenues for mobile units.
RE: Case Blue: Bwheatley vs 'The Russian Rat' abulbulian (no abulbulian)
Posted: Fri Aug 10, 2012 6:48 pm
by bwheatley
17th Army - Commander R. Ruoff
General Situation - Attacking all along the front and trying to get closer to Rostov
18th Korps - Commander R. Konrad
Opposition - 18A
198ID,4MtnD - Attacking east into the foothills north of rostov.
20th Korps - Commander V. von Schwedler
Opposition - 37A
20ID,76ID,94ID - Attacking east between Lisitchansk in the north and Artemovsk in the south.
9ID - Attacking east towards Artemovsk
23rd Korps - Commander E. Ott
Opposition - 18A
111ID,370ID - Attacking NE towards Artemovsk
245PzBn - Korp reserve
3rd Panzer Korps - Commander F. Kirchner
Opposition - 56A,18A
298ID,73ID - Providing artillery support until the Trynka is breached
Wik.SS.PzD,SlovakMotD - Attacking eastward north of Rostov
125ID,13PzD- Attacking east breached the Trynka river and advancing towards Rostov
RE: Case Blue: Bwheatley vs 'The Russian Rat' abulbulian (no abulbulian)
Posted: Fri Aug 10, 2012 6:54 pm
by bwheatley
11th Army - Commander E. von Manstein
General Situation - Attacking towards
Sevastopol
10th Korps - Commander E. Hansen
Opposition -
CA
22ID,24ID,132ID,50ID,197PzBn,190PzBn,4xAR - Attacking SW into
Sevastopol with heavy artillery support
11th Korps - Commander M. Fretter-Pico
Opposition -
CA
72ID,170ID,28ID,249PzBn,4xAR - Attacking NW into
Sevastopol with heavy artillery
12th Korps - Commander F. MattenKlott
Opposition -
CA
46ID - Guarding the western side of the kerch peninsula. Training for possible seaborne invasion of the eastern side of the kerch peninsula.

RE: Case Blue: Bwheatley vs 'The Russian Rat' abulbulian (no abulbulian)
Posted: Fri Aug 10, 2012 6:55 pm
by bwheatley
Note this time i diliberatly ignored minors since i still have some organization to do. And i was lazy. It took a lot to type all that up and make the templates so i'll finish the minors later.
RE: Case Blue: Bwheatley vs 'The Russian Rat' abulbulian (no abulbulian)
Posted: Fri Aug 10, 2012 6:56 pm
by bwheatley
Also i think i'll keep these global updates to perhaps be every 3 turns (6 days) just to keep them from being too overwhelming for folks.
RE: Case Blue: Bwheatley vs 'The Russian Rat' abulbulian (no abulbulian)
Posted: Fri Aug 10, 2012 7:02 pm
by rominet
Losses for each side would be interesting.
RE: Case Blue: Bwheatley vs 'The Russian Rat' abulbulian (no abulbulian)
Posted: Fri Aug 10, 2012 7:07 pm
by bwheatley
It's at the top

RE: Case Blue: Bwheatley vs 'The Russian Rat' abulbulian (no abulbulian)
Posted: Fri Aug 10, 2012 7:11 pm
by bwheatley
Request for strategy conference
General Manstein kindly requests your attendance and input at a strategy conference to determine the best course of action for the 11A to take after the fall of Sevastopol.
Currently the thoughts are we can try to assault the east side of the kerch straits. Or we could leave one korps of romanian troops and move the bulk of the army NE to help with the assault on rostov.
Please respond with your constructive views on where our elite troops can be of most good.
With an invasion of the kerch we would have to be careful to strike when the soviet navy is least likely to interdict. Perhaps there is some sort of diversion that would help us in that regard.
Kindly,
E. Manstein
RE: Case Blue: Bwheatley vs 'The Russian Rat' abulbulian (no abulbulian)
Posted: Fri Aug 10, 2012 7:37 pm
by Keunert
Lieber Erich,
go to Rostov and support the siege of the city with your strength and your capable artillery. once Rostov falls, you will be needed to flood the plains before the caucasus.
Frederikus Von Sichelschnitt
RE: Case Blue: Bwheatley vs 'The Russian Rat' abulbulian (no abulbulian)
Posted: Fri Aug 10, 2012 8:36 pm
by Pawsy
11 Army to swing east of Rostov and threaten Stalingrad. Soviets will have to cover both options. This will split his forces and you gain the initiative and can decide on priority. I have 1 Pz Army support the drive on Stalingrad once it breaks out. Multiple directions of attacks overwhelm the Soviet command ability to respond. Be ready for 5th tank Army entry.
If he defends forward in a static defence break in with Inf Divs then pass the Pz Divs through the hole. If he tries a mobile defence keep Pz Divs in supply and use them to envelope and cut off enemy forces. A double envelopment will break his front. Create Pz Korps with 3 Pz or Motorised Div and some infantry. Support main attacks with air.