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Distant Worlds is a vast, pausable real-time, 4X space strategy game which models a "living galaxy" with incredible options for replayability and customizability. Experience the full depth and detail of large turn-based strategy games, but with the simplicity and ease of real-time, and on the scale of a massively-multiplayer online game. Now greatly enhanced with the new Universe release, which includes all four previous releases as well as the new Universe expansion!

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I believe there is a way to force a break on Wikispot too - using ==== as a section break.
I found this (and lots more) in the Editing help - http://wikispot.org/Help_with_Editing
It's true there are many things I miss over Mediawiki, but I am willing to forgo that in return for the advantages I listed somewhere above...

As per communication on Wikispot - there is the way of editing the User pages and posting "messages" there with the signature... As I just did :) - http://distant-worlds.wikispot.org/Users/BryanHBell
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Ok guys, two thigs:

1) I notice that the galactopedia is replicated independently of other pages. I think this is bad. For example, there is a page for "Planets and Colonization" and a page for "Galactopedia: Colonization". I think there should just be a page for "Colonization". The initial content can simple be taken from the galactopedia. All things colonizing should go on that page. Detailed concepts can have their own page linked from there. Basically like every article in Wikipedia is done.

2) How do you create new pages? For example, I wrote the page for "Galactopedia: Colonization" and want to make another page discussing Colony Ships. How is this done? I cannot find an option anywhere for making new pages.

Thanks in advance for your help/feedback.
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1) I notice that the galactopedia is replicated independently of other pages. I think this is bad.

We agreed earlier in this thread to keep an exact replica of the in-game Galactopedia content on the wiki. This is independent of and in addtion to any other content we create. The idea is to have an already-wikified starting point resource for creating expanded pages elsewhere in the wiki. Additionally, I think it might be useful to have a replica of the in-game Galactopedia available somewhere outside of the game. Sure, there'll be duplicated information between what's in the Galactopedia replica and the expanded pages we add to the rest of the wiki. I don't think that matters. The title/name of each page in the replica has "(Galactopedia)" appended so it stands out as a separate resource.

Once the wiki content is sufficiently robust, we may opt to delete all the Galactopedia replica pages.

That said, we can certainly revisit the idea of having a Galactopedia replica in the wiki. I like the idea of having it, but I'm not adamant that it stay there.
2) How do you create new pages? For example, I wrote the page for "Galactopedia: Colonization" and want to make another page discussing Colony Ships. How is this done? I cannot find an option anywhere for making new pages.

To create a new page, add a link to an appropriate page. After adding the link, click on it and you'll be taken to the new page for editing.

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jp,

as long as someone (wink wink Bryan so far, perhaps other will join?) is willing to copy-paste the Galactopedia in, there is enough space for everything... As Bryan said, Galactopedia entries are "hidden" beneath the basic Galactopedia entry (and recognizable by the suffix), so they can serve as a starting point for original articles on the Wiki, they can be referenced as an offline Galactopedia, should someone wish to, or they can be deleted if we find them duplicate in the end...

That is the beauty of the shared Wiki creation - no one pays you for hard-optimized content, so if you wish to add something, do it! More content always means more options, if there are willing people to add it.
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2.
["New Page"] or ["New Page" NEW PAGE]

creates

New Page and when clicked will open a page with that name. if no page exists a new page creation screen will be displayed

The wording after the quotation is to rename the text displayed in the link but New Page is still the links address.

Save the new link on an existing page and then re-load the page. Now click on the link, it will try and load "New Page".






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Thanks guys. Sorry, I either misunderstood the previous posts or forgot what had been agreed upon (I have been skipping to the second page here lately). I now understand the reasoning behind having the Galactopedia in the wiki, so consider my previous comment rescinded. On a side note, since my entry under Galactopedia Colonization was modified from the actual Galactopedia, I will move it to the wiki Colonization Planets page.

Edit: I see you totally anticipated that! Thanks, Bryan! I will continue further discussion on the wiki as the need arises!
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Ladies and Gentlepeople,

I am now focusing fully on the Tech trees. And that is where I would be grateful for any help from folks having some spare time and willing to transcribe images to text [:)] - as this is a lengthy process mainly due to the size of the Tech trees.

What I would mainly need, is getting all the individual Tech development details in text form (does not have to be tabled Excel, just simple tabbed or semi-coloned text, as I have some security limitations on Word macros, which in turn prohibits me from macro-converting word to wiki and leaves me with manual search-replace). I could supply source screenshots taken from the game if need be - but if you happen to have two monitors for instance (or a widescreen), this can be also done during gameplay by setting a smaller game window and editing the text side-by-side.

I am working on the Weapons Tech tree myself and have the basic structure already prepared, so if anyone would like to focus on the Energy or High-Tech trees, I would be grateful (and the users of the wiki also)!

Last but not least, this "campaign" is aimed at folks not yet editing the wiki, as all the guys already on-board have their "wip" areas they currently focus on...

Thx!
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After some time I returned to updating the Wiki. Of course, my progress is slow, as I have some outstanding projects ongoing yet, but it should clear up soon-ish (during the early summer I expect).

From what I have seen so far in the Shadows previews, there will mostly be new things added and not much (if anything significant at all) will be changed from the current Legends features, so I guess we can happily update the wiki as we move along... (wink wink [8D]).

Continuing my work on the Tech trees so far...

EDIT: I am also planning slowly to try to correct errors, typos, spelling etc. (english is not my native language, mind you, but I will do what I can [:'(])
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Great effort ! Will contribute if I am sure enough to add to the wiki. Due to complexity and much vageness in some posts the new wiki is a great project.


Why isn´t this stickied yet ???
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ORIGINAL: hfl13
Why isn´t this stickied yet ???

Indeed.I never even knew about this before this topic bumb.
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Thanks you Erik !
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[8D]
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Thx for stickying the topic!

I have updated the Game Features section of the Wiki as per the release info on the webpage... Will update other sections slowly in the coming days and also continue on the groundwork of the wiki (e.g. adding content) :)

Thank you all in advance for any help!
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Finished the Weapons Tech tree details, going to Energy Tech tree now.

If anyone is willing to help me with the tedious work, I would appreciate if you could take screenshots of the popup windows in-game of the details for each tech (see below example). Too bad this is not detailed anywhere (or in raw text form)... I will start the Energy tree, so if anyone would start the HighTech one, that could save me some work :)

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Started on the framework for the Energy tree, putting in the base colors and placeholders for the individual technology levels, so that it is easier to copy+paste them and fill it all in.

I am considering splitting the Tech Trees into three separate pages due to the length of the overall page itself (as Wikispot does not allow for a more condensed layout).

http://distant-worlds.wikispot.org/Tech_trees


I have also devised an AutoIt script to greatly ease and semi-automate the manual backup of all wiki pages (as Wikispot does not have an export function either). So far pages up to the letter "E" are backed up [8D].

For those interested - the script remembers the current mouse position in my Firefox window (hovering about a link to a page in the "All Pages" screen on the Wiki), clicks the link adding the "edit" part to the address to open it in editing mode, copies all the text from the editing window, opens Notepad, pastes the wiki code in, copies the URL address, saves the Notepad file by trimming the URL address to only the actual page name, closes Notepad, returns back to Firefox, clicks "Back" two times to get back to the "All Pages" page on the Wiki and moves the mouse 16 pixels down to the link for the next page. Unless of course the pages under that letter are finished, in which case I manually adjust the mouse to the next link.

All I need to do then is hit "F12" to process that next page [:D]. This way I only hit "F12" until there is a gap between the links to the pages...
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I just wanted to say thank you for your work so far on the wiki, work-in-progress as it is. It has come in handy when I didn't want to start up the full game to find out some random bonus or statistic. While I'd like to help, realistically I know my time is overstretched as it is. =( Good luck.
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Resuming my work on the DW Wiki :)

Rewrote a part of Research and Technology and continuing with filling up the Tech Trees.
Energy Tech Tree is nearly finished now, the only remaining section is "Space Construction".
I also added the newly created HighTech tree overview picture (created in the useful DIA editor as the other ones were).

On top of that I backed up all the remaining Wiki content manually, that was outstanding after I did not finish my backup last year (this is just for personal reasons as there is no automated backup feature on the Wikispot engine - too bad). Just for the event that something would happen to the Wiki or its hosting at any given time, to be able to restore the content on a different site...

If anyone willing to help can help, all the better!
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Inserted placeholders for all HighTech technologies, now only need screenshots from the Research tree to continue...
Created "Governments" at the front page
Copied individual government types into their pages from galactopedia and added coloring to the attribute table
Small changes here and there as I spot them...
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Thank you! I frequently use the wiki for references and any update or extension is more than appreciated.
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