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OT: The end of the human race
Posted: Thu Aug 23, 2012 11:40 pm
by larryfulkerson
Hey you guys:
I'm listening to some YouTube videos while I'm working on the moves for my game w/ Jim and I came across a documentary
that I want to share w/ you. It claims that Artificial Intelligence and Nanotechnology will cause a singularity where the
electromechanical robots we build will become more intelligent than us and will surpass us in every physical ability
and that they may or may not keep us humans around as pets by the year 2045. I'll be 95 years old by then if I'm still alive.
It starts here:
Part 1
Part 2
Part 3
Part 4
Part 5
Part 6
Part 7
Part 8
Part 9
Part 10
Part 11
Part 12
Part 13
Part 14
Part 15
Part 16
Part 17
Part 18
RE: OT: The end of the human race
Posted: Thu Aug 23, 2012 11:55 pm
by Shellshock
Yup. And according to all the doomsayers of the 1960s and 70s, we should have all been dead in a famine caused by overpopulation or freezing in a nuclear winter by now.
Doomsday sells year in and out.
RE: OT: The end of the human race
Posted: Thu Aug 23, 2012 11:57 pm
by wdolson
This has been a common Science Fiction theme for 50 years. The book/movie 2001 were written in 1968 and had a self aware computer. Despite dramatic advances in computing beyond even what Stanley Kubric and Arther Clarke saw back then, we do not have self aware computers 11 years after the date of that movie.
Some advances in AI intelligence have been made in recent years. However, I doubt that AI are going to take over. What's more likely is that the human race will become something more Borg-like. There have been a lot of advancements interfacing humans with computers in recent years and some people are predicting that we will be doing more electronic implants.
Another thing everyone researching AI are aware of is Isaac Asimov's robot series. The rules of robotics proposed in those books are taken seriously by those working on cutting edge AIs.
There are a lot of dangers in the future, but I'm not too worried about this one.
Bill
RE: OT: The end of the human race
Posted: Fri Aug 24, 2012 12:03 am
by WO Katsuki
so they basically believe in the terminator movies?
well my house got foreclosed a couple years ago, i'm more worried about the guys who ruined our economy and sent us to iraq..
jesse ventura for president [:)]
RE: OT: The end of the human race
Posted: Fri Aug 24, 2012 12:14 am
by geofflambert
Well, if they do take over, they could hardly do worse than us.
RE: OT: The end of the human race
Posted: Fri Aug 24, 2012 12:21 am
by Cribtop
They better let us keep playing AE!
RE: OT: The end of the human race
Posted: Fri Aug 24, 2012 12:23 am
by StK
Shouldn't the damn Maya Calender get us first? or some Meteor, or a huge sunflare, or aliens, or terrorists with nukes, or the anti-christ, or those blasted ATM machines where I have to put my hand in them and where I'm always afraid it will close and snap my hand right off? [8|]
RE: OT: The end of the human race
Posted: Fri Aug 24, 2012 12:39 am
by witpqs
You will be assimilated. Resistance is futile.
RE: OT: The end of the human race
Posted: Fri Aug 24, 2012 12:45 am
by Chickenboy
Yes. What the Argletonian said. Join our collective. We will add your distinctiveness to our own. Watch your futures end.
RE: OT: The end of the human race
Posted: Fri Aug 24, 2012 2:31 am
by Lcp Purcell
Extreme Weather Linked to Global Warming, Nobel Prize-Winning Scientist Says
(You are not allowed to post links for 7 days from the date of your tenth post.) !??!???!
The funny thing is because global warming has been allowed to advance unchecked everyone will be calling for a one world government in 10-20 years. Is this a sad coincidence or an evil plot, well your guess is as good as mine.
RE: OT: The end of the human race
Posted: Fri Aug 24, 2012 2:46 am
by Chickenboy
ORIGINAL: Lcp Purcell
Extreme Weather Linked to Global Warming, Nobel Prize-Winning Scientist Says
(You are not allowed to post links for 7 days from the date of your tenth post.) !??!???!
The funny thing is because global warming has been allowed to advance unchecked everyone will be calling for a one world government in 10-20 years. Is this a sad coincidence or an evil plot, well your guess is as good as mine.
Yes-my guess is that not 'everyone' will be calling for one world government in 10-20 years. I think that's neither sad coincidence, nor evil plot-just realism.
RE: OT: The end of the human race
Posted: Fri Aug 24, 2012 3:29 am
by Yaab
Can't wait for a better Japanese AI! Which patch will it be? January 2044?
RE: OT: The end of the human race
Posted: Fri Aug 24, 2012 3:30 am
by witpqs
ORIGINAL: Chickenboy
ORIGINAL: Lcp Purcell
Extreme Weather Linked to Global Warming, Nobel Prize-Winning Scientist Says
(You are not allowed to post links for 7 days from the date of your tenth post.) !??!???!
The funny thing is because global warming has been allowed to advance unchecked everyone will be calling for a one world government in 10-20 years. Is this a sad coincidence or an evil plot, well your guess is as good as mine.
Yes-my guess is that not 'everyone' will be calling for one world government in 10-20 years. I think that's neither sad coincidence, nor evil plot-just realism.
And a good thing.
RE: OT: The end of the human race
Posted: Fri Aug 24, 2012 3:32 am
by StK
Where's the causality between global warming and "one world government"?
RE: OT: The end of the human race
Posted: Fri Aug 24, 2012 5:10 am
by Empire101
ORIGINAL: Yaab
Can't wait for a better Japanese AI! Which patch will it be? January 2044?
[:D][:D]
Let me just pencil that in for you.......
RE: OT: The end of the human race
Posted: Fri Aug 24, 2012 5:30 am
by Lcp Purcell
ORIGINAL: StK
Where's the causality between global warming and "one world government"?
Where's the causality between global warming and "one world government"?
well in the USA when the planet was 3 degrees warmer Celsius the great lakes were not an inter connected waterway. the Mississippi was not a navigational river, and the south was/ shall be a giant desert.
southerners around the globe will need to move north, and the north won't be as good as it once was. The USA no longer leads in green house gas emissions, so to address the problem it will take a one world government. ( which of course is a dreadful idea)
RE: OT: The end of the human race
Posted: Fri Aug 24, 2012 6:07 am
by Empire101
ORIGINAL: Shellshock
Yup. And according to all the doomsayers of the 1960s and 70s, we should have all been dead in a famine caused by overpopulation or freezing in a nuclear winter by now.
Doomsday sells year in and out.
+1
All are frauds.
RE: OT: The end of the human race
Posted: Fri Aug 24, 2012 6:26 am
by wdolson
It's human negative bias. We spent thousands of years in an environment where there were many things that could kill us at every turn. Learning to look out for potential hazards actually did pay off. So we worry about what might befall us in the future.
For people in the industrialized world, we've never been safer. Though the US and some other industrialized countries have been in small wars (relative to past wars) for the last decade, there are fewer wars in the world than there used to be. Despite some horrific crimes splashed on the news, the violent crime rate has been dropping for the last 15 years. The economy is bad, health care in the US is still overly expensive, and a lot of other ills. However, life expectancy in the developed world has never been higher and the diseases that killed most of our great grand parents (and for some our grand parents or parents) have gone from constant threats to rare, or we have come up with ways to mitigate them.
Despite things getting better in general, we still find all the flaws. I could easily name a bunch of negative things about the world that went through my head writing this that I didn't mention. The negative bias to find the flaws is active in all of us.
Doomsday scenarios are part of that negative bias. We have this niggling feeling that if things are going OK, they must be a sabre toothed tiger around here somewhere and we're its next meal. Because sabre toothed tigers are extinct (and we're not!), we scare ourselves with the dangers that could conceivably happen.
Bill
RE: OT: The end of the human race
Posted: Fri Aug 24, 2012 6:52 am
by Empire101
ORIGINAL: wdolson
It's human negative bias. We spent thousands of years in an environment where there were many things that could kill us at every turn. Learning to look out for potential hazards actually did pay off. So we worry about what might befall us in the future.
For people in the industrialized world, we've never been safer. Though the US and some other industrialized countries have been in small wars (relative to past wars) for the last decade, there are fewer wars in the world than there used to be. Despite some horrific crimes splashed on the news, the violent crime rate has been dropping for the last 15 years. The economy is bad, health care in the US is still overly expensive, and a lot of other ills. However, life expectancy in the developed world has never been higher and the diseases that killed most of our great grand parents (and for some our grand parents or parents) have gone from constant threats to rare, or we have come up with ways to mitigate them.
Despite things getting better in general, we still find all the flaws. I could easily name a bunch of negative things about the world that went through my head writing this that I didn't mention. The negative bias to find the flaws is active in all of us.
Doomsday scenarios are part of that negative bias. We have this niggling feeling that if things are going OK, they must be a sabre toothed tiger around here somewhere and we're its next meal. Because sabre toothed tigers are extinct (and we're not!), we scare ourselves with the dangers that could conceivably happen.
Bill
+1 A more courageous/robust and optimistic mindset is required for life.
RE: OT: The end of the human race
Posted: Fri Aug 24, 2012 8:14 am
by Dili
"Where's the causality between global warming and "one world government"
First there is no evidence of something we can't measure when the supposed differnces are4 in .x degrees... second it is a justification to wrestle power from the nations.