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Speedy vs Saper 222 (no Saper 222)
Posted: Tue Sep 11, 2012 11:15 am
by Speedysteve
Hi all,
This is an Alt VC 41-45 GC. I'm the SU and Saper 222 is the Axis.
We've the following guidelines in place:
No silly paradrops, mulling, HQ Buildup spam etc.
Random weather
Full FOW
Locked HQ's
Saper is clearly a talented player (from reading the AAR written by Kamil) so I accepted this challenge.
A pretty impressive opening by Saper.
Here's the views after recon:

RE: Speedy vs Saper 222 (no Saper 222)
Posted: Tue Sep 11, 2012 11:17 am
by Speedysteve
Center:

RE: Speedy vs Saper 222 (no Saper 222)
Posted: Tue Sep 11, 2012 11:18 am
by Speedysteve
South:

RE: Speedy vs Saper 222 (no Saper 222)
Posted: Tue Sep 11, 2012 11:43 am
by bigbaba
sapper is a good one. i can not see any mistake in his first turn.
RE: Speedy vs Saper 222 (no Saper 222)
Posted: Tue Sep 11, 2012 2:18 pm
by Speedysteve
North after most movements. No pockets were breakable.
Skirmishes out in front of Pskov. Hope to hold here as long as possible.

RE: Speedy vs Saper 222 (no Saper 222)
Posted: Tue Sep 11, 2012 2:38 pm
by Speedysteve
Center:
Once more. Skirmishers and weak units outfront. They're all expendable and are only speed bumps. I'll be refitting anything from the Dnepr east.
No pockets are breakable here.

RE: Speedy vs Saper 222 (no Saper 222)
Posted: Tue Sep 11, 2012 2:46 pm
by Speedysteve
South:
The Lvov Pocket was breakable as elements of 39th Tank Division and 240th Motorised Divisons met up NE of Chernovtsy.
The Rovno pocket was not breakable despite a few attempts to remove Panzer Rgt's.
A few other successful attacks were launched within the Lvov Pocket. The units are dead so I figured they may as well take some Nazi's and their morale with them.
Red Circles = successful attacks.
Blue Circles = un-successful attacks.
P.S. I haven't moved anything east of the pockets yet.

RE: Speedy vs Saper 222 (no Saper 222)
Posted: Tue Sep 11, 2012 4:43 pm
by 821Bobo
No ZOC behind Dneper below Mogilev can be dangerous. Panzers with 45+MP and morale above 85 should be able to cross.
RE: Speedy vs Saper 222 (no Saper 222)
Posted: Tue Sep 11, 2012 4:49 pm
by Speedysteve
Hi Bobo.
I doubt they'll be able to reach their through my forces and cross the Dnepr next turn
RE: Speedy vs Saper 222 (no Saper 222)
Posted: Tue Sep 11, 2012 5:41 pm
by 821Bobo
Tank division on Berezina will route, so will the motorized division. Units in Mogilev are really crap. No matter what side I was playing, but if attacked on turn 2, they always routed.
RE: Speedy vs Saper 222 (no Saper 222)
Posted: Tue Sep 11, 2012 7:12 pm
by Seminole
I doubt they'll be able to reach their through my forces and cross the Dnepr next turn
Common mistake I made in '41 of my current game was calculating estimated panzer reach based on how many units they would have to plow through. Failing to take into account there may be one last unit that gets a path 'free and clear' because early units knocked my defenders out of the way. My estimations of German reach were usually a week behind reality as consequence.
RE: Speedy vs Saper 222 (no Saper 222)
Posted: Tue Sep 11, 2012 7:29 pm
by Michael T
Is this a server game or regular PBEM?
RE: Speedy vs Saper 222 (no Saper 222)
Posted: Tue Sep 11, 2012 8:59 pm
by Speedysteve
It's a PBEM game. Why?
RE: Speedy vs Saper 222 (no Saper 222)
Posted: Tue Sep 11, 2012 10:43 pm
by Michael T
Just curious.
RE: Speedy vs Saper 222 (no Saper 222)
Posted: Wed Sep 12, 2012 9:37 am
by Speedysteve
South after moves:

RE: Speedy vs Saper 222 (no Saper 222)
Posted: Wed Sep 12, 2012 9:38 am
by Speedysteve
Losses:

RE: Speedy vs Saper 222 (no Saper 222)
Posted: Wed Sep 12, 2012 9:39 am
by Speedysteve
OOB:

RE: Speedy vs Saper 222 (no Saper 222)
Posted: Fri Sep 14, 2012 12:58 pm
by Speedysteve
Turn 2.
End of Soviet Turn.
North:
Surprisngly Saper didn't advance towards Pskov but left his panzers over the Daugava and used some to create a small pocket further south. Fine by me. Another week for my forces to ready themselves up here.

RE: Speedy vs Saper 222 (no Saper 222)
Posted: Fri Sep 14, 2012 1:23 pm
by Speedysteve
Center:
Here's the 2 small pockets he formed.
4 divisions worth in total. No biggie.
You'll also notice I reinforced the VL region. This was impreative as there were few units here and the AGN/AGC Panzers could have comfortably rushed through here on turn 3 to jeopardise Smlonesk and Pskov.

RE: Speedy vs Saper 222 (no Saper 222)
Posted: Fri Sep 14, 2012 1:25 pm
by Speedysteve
Mogilev:
The Dnepr was reinforced and an attacks pushed back a Rgt of the 20th Mtr Division west of Mogilev.
