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Just another Steam rant I suppose...
Posted: Sat Oct 06, 2012 11:50 am
by GaryChildress
I finished a few scenarios in a campaign of Dawn of War II. I close down my computer and retire for the night. I open up my copy of DoWII and I get all kinds of error messages about my copy of DoWII being "out of sync" or something with the "steam Cloud" (What the hell is this Cloud? Did someone at STeam pass gas to create this cloud or something?) I have NO idea what the problem is or how to fix it. I just want to play my game. So I click "OK" on some confusing pop ups which mean nothing to me from Steam and then open my game to the campaign I was playing. So now all the games I played last night disappeared and I am back at a previous scenario in the campaign which I had already played.
First off I bought a hard copy of DoWII. I did not want "Steam" but the hard copy forced me to create a STeam log on to play the stupid game. WTF??? Why is it that every other company is able to create hard copies of a game wihtout using "Steam" but apparently THQ isn't? This is the height of stupidity! I thought Steam was about selling download copies of games over the internet, not about registering and syncing hard copies with some stupid "cloud" in cyberspace.
I can't begin to relate how frustrated I am with computers these days. People are always trying to "fix" things which aren't broken and they just end up breaking the stupid things. This has got to be the most retarded methodology I have ever seen. [:@]
RE: Just another Steam rant I suppose...
Posted: Sat Oct 06, 2012 11:58 am
by balto
I am sure someone with a more powerful brain can provide a better answer, but I think I can help with the "SteamCloud" and having to start from scratch on a previously saved game. If this is incorrect, well, I have only wasted 5 seconds of your life.
A lot of the Steam games save to the Steam Cloud which is NOT on your hard drive. When you go to the SAVE window or LOAD window, look around and see if you see button for things like "Steam Cloud" or "Hard Drive." The Steam Cloud saves allow you to open up saved games from different computers.
All the other complicated stuff about the "sync" windows, etc.., Someone with a large brain may be able to help you with that.
RE: Just another Steam rant I suppose...
Posted: Sat Oct 06, 2012 12:00 pm
by Titanwarrior89
I hear you, so true. Thats why I am sticking to Matrix games/Ageod and table top wargaming. Too many changes(steam and others). After awhile you just get tired of it. You spend 50-60 bucks on a game and you still can't play it unless you have a internet connection/DRM's. Thats one reason I still do boardgaming.[;)]
RE: Just another Steam rant I suppose...
Posted: Sat Oct 06, 2012 12:33 pm
by GaryChildress
ORIGINAL: Titanwarrior89
I hear you, so true. Thats why I am sticking to Matrix games/Ageod and table top wargaming. Too many changes(steam and others). After awhile you just get tired of it. You spend 50-60 bucks on a game and you still can't play it unless you have a internet connection/DRM's. Thats one reasone I still do boardgaming.[;)]
Thanks Titanwarrior. Matrix uses a tried and true formula for selling games. And it WORKS! Why can't other gaming companies take their heads out of their posteriors and simply sell games without all the stupid gimmicks? [8|]
RE: Just another Steam rant I suppose...
Posted: Sat Oct 06, 2012 12:35 pm
by Vasquez
Saves from steam registered games are stored at the steam cloud at times. If a glitch happens use the syncronize option or whatever it was called (had it a few times since I use steam a lot) and it will be fixed in a few seconds.
RE: Just another Steam rant I suppose...
Posted: Sat Oct 06, 2012 12:44 pm
by GaryChildress
ORIGINAL: Vasquez
Saves from steam registered games are stored at the steam cloud at times. If a glitch happens use the syncronize option or whatever it was called (had it a few times since I use steam a lot) and it will be fixed in a few seconds.
The problem is I DID syncronize the game and it screwed up my progress. How was I to know that the "cloud" had a different save than I did? I like DoWII but I really don't like the fact that they forced me to get on Steam when I bought a H A R D C O P Y O F T H E G A M E. Doesn't anyone in the gaming industry know what "hard copy" means anymore? This and Blizzard's online deal with Starcraft II really do a disservice to the gaming community IMO. If I purchase a hard copy it is because I want to play the game independently without any hassles forcing me to sit for an hour while the game automatically downloads the latest update I really don't care about or whatever.
RE: Just another Steam rant I suppose...
Posted: Sat Oct 06, 2012 1:02 pm
by Vasquez
iirc I had two option how to syncronize. To adapt the save to the cloud version or to the version on my computer. The phrase of the question how to restore was kinda imprecisely tho and I was pleased that the save was were I left the game. Of course not optimal. I understand your angryness. Before this happened the first time I had also no idea what the hell a steam cloud is.
RE: Just another Steam rant I suppose...
Posted: Sat Oct 06, 2012 1:12 pm
by planner 3
I got sucked into Stream once, never again.
RE: Just another Steam rant I suppose...
Posted: Sat Oct 06, 2012 1:34 pm
by Perturabo
That's one of the reasons why I never buy on Steam.
RE: Just another Steam rant I suppose...
Posted: Sun Oct 07, 2012 5:34 am
by doomtrader
I've got like 100 of games on Steam, and never had any issues with it. Very often a problem is made because people are not reading the messages (it's not only issue with steam, and it happens to me).
RE: Just another Steam rant I suppose...
Posted: Sun Oct 07, 2012 3:32 pm
by Fallschirmjager
You can also choose where to load a game from. On my games that use Cloud I can choose to load my saves from the Cload or from my local HDD.
I had your issue once where I played a game and lost my internet connection when saving and my game got out of sync. Next time I started up the game I choose to load the game from my local HDD which had the most current save. Then when I saved again my game got back in sync because it was able to upload to the Cloud.
I never have done it because I never have trouble, but there is an option to disable Steam Cloud altogether.
I will gladly trade the occasional hassle for 75% off games.
I have played more games because of Steam deals than I ever would have gotten to play otherwise.
And that leaves more money for my GF to go shopping with
RE: Just another Steam rant I suppose...
Posted: Sun Oct 07, 2012 7:59 pm
by Fred98
ORIGINAL: Fallschirmjager
I have played more games because of Steam deals than I ever would have gotten to play otherwise.
And that leaves more money for my GF to go shopping with
No, she has less money to go shopping with.
If you bought a $50 game for $10 then you have spent $10 you have not saved $40 !
RE: Just another Steam rant I suppose...
Posted: Sun Oct 07, 2012 10:03 pm
by Fallschirmjager
ORIGINAL: Joe 98
ORIGINAL: Fallschirmjager
I have played more games because of Steam deals than I ever would have gotten to play otherwise.
And that leaves more money for my GF to go shopping with
No, she has less money to go shopping with.
If you bought a $50 game for $10 then you have spent $10 you have not saved $40 !
She reads over my shoulder sometimes! If this information were to fall into enemy hands...
RE: Just another Steam rant I suppose...
Posted: Mon Oct 08, 2012 4:31 am
by wodin
I'm with Falsh on this one.
RE: Just another Steam rant I suppose...
Posted: Mon Oct 08, 2012 5:41 am
by Rtwfreak
ORIGINAL: Gary Childress
I finished a few scenarios in a campaign of Dawn of War II. I close down my computer and retire for the night. I open up my copy of DoWII and I get all kinds of error messages about my copy of DoWII being "out of sync" or something with the "steam Cloud" (What the hell is this Cloud? Did someone at STeam pass gas to create this cloud or something?) I have NO idea what the problem is or how to fix it. I just want to play my game. So I click "OK" on some confusing pop ups which mean nothing to me from Steam and then open my game to the campaign I was playing. So now all the games I played last night disappeared and I am back at a previous scenario in the campaign which I had already played.
First off I bought a hard copy of DoWII. I did not want "Steam" but the hard copy forced me to create a STeam log on to play the stupid game. WTF??? Why is it that every other company is able to create hard copies of a game wihtout using "Steam" but apparently THQ isn't? This is the height of stupidity! I thought Steam was about selling download copies of games over the internet, not about registering and syncing hard copies with some stupid "cloud" in cyberspace.
I can't begin to relate how frustrated I am with computers these days. People are always trying to "fix" things which aren't broken and they just end up breaking the stupid things. This has got to be the most retarded methodology I have ever seen. [:@]
Welcome to the Outer Limits! Do not adjust your dial to not attempt to change the channel your transmission is being controlled by STEAM and there's nothing you can do about it. Stay tuned for commericials and confusion we will be in control of your life from now on or until you pull the plug.
RE: Just another Steam rant I suppose...
Posted: Mon Oct 08, 2012 6:44 am
by ilovestrategy
I like Steam cloud. I can play Skyrim on my desktop and when I go to my laptop to play Skyrim the same saved game is there. I also love being able to just click on install if I ever need to reinstall a game.
RE: Just another Steam rant I suppose...
Posted: Mon Oct 08, 2012 11:48 am
by radic202
I also have tons of games on Steam! And basically never had a problem with them either.
RE: Just another Steam rant I suppose...
Posted: Mon Oct 08, 2012 1:33 pm
by Hanal
ORIGINAL: ilovestrategy
I like Steam cloud. I can play Skyrim on my desktop and when I go to my laptop to play Skyrim the same saved game is there. I also love being able to just click on install if I ever need to reinstall a game.
..and with a Matrix game I simply copy/paste the save folder onto a flash drive, take it to my office, and dump the saves into my notebook to continue playing, and not needing the internet to do it...I'm not knocking your reason for liking Steam Cloud, just pointing out that it is really no big deal as you can do something similiar with any game...
RE: Just another Steam rant I suppose...
Posted: Mon Oct 08, 2012 5:37 pm
by Scott_WAR
Steam cloud is great for when you need to reinstall. Your saved games are still available even if you dont save them to a disk yourself.
People have always complained about progress and this is no different.
The reasons are always the same......the old way worked fine......I cant be bothered to learn something new....etc.
The same was said of the horseless carriage,.....the washing machine,.....aircraft......EVEN THE PC.
The answer is very simple. You can adapt to new tech.....or you can get left behind.
In this case the "new way" is superior to the "old way".
RE: Just another Steam rant I suppose...
Posted: Mon Oct 08, 2012 5:59 pm
by Scott_WAR
ORIGINAL: J P Falcon
ORIGINAL: ilovestrategy
I like Steam cloud. I can play Skyrim on my desktop and when I go to my laptop to play Skyrim the same saved game is there. I also love being able to just click on install if I ever need to reinstall a game.
..and with a Matrix game I simply copy/paste the save folder onto a flash drive, take it to my office, and dump the saves into my notebook to continue playing, and not needing the internet to do it...I'm not knocking your reason for liking Steam Cloud, just pointing out that it is really no big deal as you can do something similiar with any game...
You dont need to have a flash drive to use the cloud,...so yes its much better. So ot only do you not need to keep up with disks,...and flash drives,....but you can save money since you dont need to buy them................