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Army group A and B

Posted: Sat Nov 10, 2012 10:32 pm
by smokindave34
I'm in the 2nd week of March '43 in one of my current games and AGS has not split into Army group A and B but instead I have Army group South and Army group A. Not sure if this is correct - anyone else seen this?

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RE: Army group A and B

Posted: Sun Nov 11, 2012 4:49 am
by gingerbread
7.6.7 states:

... Army Group B to Army Group South (4/43) to Army Group North Ukraine (4/44)

but it's not 4/43 in your game yet, so something seems not quite right. It should not have any effect, though.

Did the units that was under AGS before this reassign to OKH?

RE: Army group A and B

Posted: Sun Nov 11, 2012 9:33 am
by smokindave34
Thanks Gingerbread.

Not all of them. The 6th, 17th, and 1st panzer armies were under AGS and were re-assigned to OKH. I had a few corps that were directly attached to AGS (after 11th army withdrew) and they were automatically re-assigned to army group A. I agree it should not matter, I'm just hoping it's not a indication that there may be more problems coming. I have a lot of time invested in this game and want to see it through to the end.

RE: Army group A and B

Posted: Sun Nov 11, 2012 12:40 pm
by gingerbread
ORIGINAL: smokindave34


Not all of them. The 6th, 17th, and 1st panzer armies were under AGS and were re-assigned to OKH. I had a few corps that were directly attached to AGS (after 11th army withdrew) and they were automatically re-assigned to army group A. I agree it should not matter, I'm just hoping it's not a indication that there may be more problems coming. I have a lot of time invested in this game and want to see it through to the end.

The bolded I think is serious enough that you should consider filing a bug in the tech forum, and you might mention the AGB --> AGS conversion date as a possible issue as well.

RE: Army group A and B

Posted: Sun Nov 11, 2012 1:00 pm
by smokindave34
I'll do that - thanks again.

RE: Army group A and B

Posted: Sun Nov 11, 2012 3:07 pm
by Balou
I my games I have seen the variants:
AGS to AGA and AGB in 1941
AGS to AGA and AGS in 1942
AGS to AGA and AGB in 1941 and AGB reconverted to AGS

And I didn't see happen anything uncommon. But I still don't know what triggers these variants.

RE: Army group A and B

Posted: Mon Nov 12, 2012 7:57 am
by mevstedt
In all my games it has always just been AGS to AGS/AGA. Never seen AGB as far as I can recall.

Might be a AGS->ABG renaming rule I am unaware of, will have to reread the manual again...


RE: Army group A and B

Posted: Mon Nov 12, 2012 8:45 am
by smokindave34
I looked at the manual and it seems as though it should originally be AGA and AGB. I posted this in the tech forum as well.

RE: Army group A and B

Posted: Mon Nov 12, 2012 1:57 pm
by Balou
Right, it should be. But in whatever the split of the initial AGS results, its a bargain in command capacity. In the end I don't care anymore about the designation of the Army Groups after AGS has split.