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Complexity question.
Posted: Mon Nov 12, 2012 8:57 pm
by stormbringer3
I was going to buy this title a couple of minutes ago and I saw that the complexity was rated beginner. All my games don't have to at the high end of complexity, but I do want to have some challenge vs. the AI. I did enjoy Panzer Corps but I was hoping for this title to be a little more complex than that series. Thanks for any opinions about this.
RE: Complexity question.
Posted: Mon Nov 12, 2012 9:06 pm
by Lukas
I'm guessing they put that there because we tried to make the game "new player friendly". The first turns of 1914 start small scale (just austria VS serbia) to introduce the player more gradually to the game. In addition there are a lot of tutorial popups to explain things as you encounter them.
I would argue AI is pretty good but I'll let a non-dev try to convince on that part
RE: Complexity question.
Posted: Mon Nov 12, 2012 9:10 pm
by Grim.Reaper
Just curious, as the game continues on, do you know roughly how many units you might be controlling at any given time? Just wondering if a reasonable amount or does it turn into 100's of units:)
RE: Complexity question.
Posted: Mon Nov 12, 2012 9:16 pm
by IainMcNeil
It has a lot of depth though it's designed to be a pick up and play game. It has complexity in the right places and none where it is not needed.
RE: Complexity question.
Posted: Mon Nov 12, 2012 9:23 pm
by hadberz
IMO the AI is good. I normally play on balanced settings too. If you give the AI an opportunity it will take it and make you pay for it, like being cut off from supplies. That is never a good thing. [:)]
@Grim it's reasonable, I never counted but looks like less than 100 for the games I have played.
RE: Complexity question.
Posted: Mon Nov 12, 2012 11:09 pm
by Erik Rutins
It's not a simplistic game and has a lot of strategic depth and historical detail. It is "beginner" in the sense that the interface is easy enough to understand and the game is well enough designed that you don't need to be a veteran wargamer to learn how to play it. However, it has a lot to offer any WWI grog and I would rate it Intermediate in terms of the depth of play.
Regards,
- Erik
RE: Complexity question.
Posted: Tue Nov 13, 2012 12:38 am
by stormbringer3
Thanks everyone for the responses. My concerns have been addressed and tomorrow I'll purchase.
RE: Complexity question.
Posted: Tue Nov 13, 2012 1:15 am
by Bossy573
ORIGINAL: hadberz
IMO the AI is good.
Very aggressive. Played as the Central powers in my first game thru 1914. The Serbs beat the Austrians silly, the Russians trounced Hindenburg and Co. in the east and the German right wing in the West was cut off and forced to run for its life (which was awesome, BTW).
Having a blast so far, Well done folks.
RE: Complexity question.
Posted: Tue Nov 13, 2012 12:31 pm
by TheWombat_matrixforum
Yeah, I haven't had much time with it but so far it's the WWI strategy game I was looking for--it's reasonably slick, clear, good looking, and comprehensible. I'm no longer really in the market for hyper-complex wargames, an this one seems to hit most of the right spots with the right amount of detail. Nice art and period flavor too.
RE: Complexity question.
Posted: Tue Nov 13, 2012 12:48 pm
by Jestre
ORIGINAL: TheWombat
Yeah, I haven't had much time with it but so far it's the WWI strategy game I was looking for--it's reasonably slick, clear, good looking, and comprehensible. I'm no longer really in the market for hyper-complex wargames, an this one seems to hit most of the right spots with the right amount of detail. Nice art and period flavor too.
Totally agree, only shortcoming so far is I would like to see/hear a better soundtrack. More variety and would like to hear some classic WWI period music.
Also like someone posted previously, if you make a mistake or overlook something the AI will make you pay!!! Haven't played far enough to see if the AI is strategically sound but tactically the AI is very very good.
RE: Complexity question.
Posted: Tue Nov 13, 2012 5:36 pm
by Empire101
ORIGINAL: Erik Rutins
It's not a simplistic game and has a lot of strategic depth and historical detail. It is "beginner" in the sense that the interface is easy enough to understand and the game is well enough designed that you don't need to be a veteran wargamer to learn how to play it. However, it has a lot to offer any WWI grog and I would rate it Intermediate in terms of the depth of play.
Regards,
- Erik
I agree. In my case I'd put it at Intermediate +.
I'm really enjoying getting to grips with the game, but one thing that strikes me is that if you make one mistake, the AI will
severely punish you.
Getting your reinforcements right is a real challenge in itself.