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Russian units being reorganized

Posted: Thu Feb 14, 2013 10:27 pm
by AFV
How does the game determine which tank divisions will turn into brigades, in place on the map, and which ones will be taken off the map to be reorganized? Is it the same ones every time? Based on moral, TOE? Random?

On the same vein, how is it determined when mech divisions get converted into rifle divisions?

RE: Russian units being reorganized

Posted: Fri Feb 15, 2013 12:54 am
by Seminole
One other question on this subject. If an armored div achieves Guards status and is re-organized as a brigade, does it lose that designation. Same question for Mot. Div.

RE: Russian units being reorganized

Posted: Fri Feb 15, 2013 4:01 am
by gingerbread
A routed TD that rallies have a % chance (20?) to instead re-org as a TB off map.

Non-routed TD/MD have a % chance (20?) to upgrade in place to a TB/RD. A routed unit will stay as is.

There are no Guards TD/MD (no TOE). I think a TD/MD upgrading on map will keep its win/loss record.

RE: Russian units being reorganized

Posted: Fri Feb 15, 2013 10:50 am
by Seminole
There are no Guards TD/MD (no TOE). I think a TD/MD upgrading on map will keep its win/loss record.

Maybe it is a bug, but I have a Tank division and a Motorized division in my current game that achieved Guards status. It is October of '41. I'll check when I get my turn back (server game), but if I remember correctly the TD had a 10-0 win/loss record. Don't remember what the record was for the Motorized division.

RE: Russian units being reorganized

Posted: Sat Feb 16, 2013 10:35 am
by Seminole
I found the answer to one question: The Motorized Div re-organized this turn on map as a rifle division and retained Guards status (10-1 record), but it was named 1st Guards Rifle Division although that designation was already taken, so I have two 1st Guards Rifle Divisions now.

RE: Russian units being reorganized

Posted: Sat Feb 16, 2013 12:15 pm
by gingerbread
If you have a turn with the Mot Guard, I'd be interested in a screen shot showing the TOE number like:

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RE: Russian units being reorganized

Posted: Sat Feb 16, 2013 2:18 pm
by Seminole
It is a server game, so I don't have the save.
I just submitted my turn after the re-org, but I have PM'ed Elmo, so hopefully he can pull my opponent's save and repeat the bug. Perhaps he can also answer your question.

RE: Russian units being reorganized

Posted: Sat Feb 16, 2013 10:34 pm
by Seminole
1st Guards Tank Division re-organized on map to 41a Tank bde TOE and retained Guards status. No other Guards tank bde, so no naming bug on this unit.

RE: Russian units being reorganized

Posted: Mon Aug 19, 2013 7:03 pm
by Mike13z50
Here is a screen cap of my only Guards Tank Div, this was from when the game first came out, my first campaign on easy mode.



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RE: Russian units being reorganized

Posted: Mon Aug 19, 2013 7:32 pm
by Ketza
I once had 3 guards tank divsions. They all became brigades which in turn became the 1st Guards tank corp.