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German and American submarine campaigns

Posted: Fri Jul 05, 2013 8:29 pm
by Dili
Might interest some:

RESULTS OF THE GERMAN AND AMERICAN

SUBMARINE CAMPAIGNS

OF WORLD WAR II

http://www.navy.mil/navydata/cno/n87/hi ... aigns.html

RE: German and American submarine campaigns

Posted: Fri Jul 05, 2013 9:43 pm
by dr.hal
Thanks! Cool information.

RE: German and American submarine campaigns

Posted: Fri Jul 05, 2013 10:25 pm
by tocaff
Excellent find. Thanks

RE: German and American submarine campaigns

Posted: Sat Jul 06, 2013 10:34 am
by fodder
Another site added to favorite places. TY. [:)]

RE: German and American submarine campaigns

Posted: Sun Jul 07, 2013 6:47 pm
by Jorge_Stanbury
and then you realize how easy it is scenario 1 for Japan compared to the real thing

RE: German and American submarine campaigns

Posted: Sun Jul 07, 2013 11:10 pm
by wgs_explorer
Thanks Dili!

While I was browsing the bibliography in that article, one item caught my eye ("Shipping in Naval Logistics"). I did a search for it and ran across another site:

www.fold3.com

There are a number of US Navy historical documents on this site--including "Shipping in Naval Logistics".

Warning: To download, you must have a membership, but they have a free (with CC#) 7 day trial membership. If you don't want to be charged, remember to cancel before 7 days are up!

Bill

RE: German and American submarine campaigns

Posted: Mon Jul 08, 2013 3:45 pm
by Jorge_Stanbury
Questions on the flags on your picture:

I can see left from top:
- Manchukuo
- Mengkiang (2 flags: old and new)
- China (2 flags: old's five races under one union and ROC's white sun on blue sky)

right:
- Is it Laos?
- Philippines
- ??? maybe Xingjian or Indonesia?
- Burma
- ??? maybe Korea?

Missing:
- Kampuchea
- Vietnam
- Thailand


RE: German and American submarine campaigns

Posted: Mon Jul 08, 2013 5:57 pm
by JohnDillworth
Thanks, I have a 2 hour meeting to sit through that has nothing to do with me. Now I have something to read!

RE: German and American submarine campaigns

Posted: Mon Jul 08, 2013 11:12 pm
by wgs_explorer
ORIGINAL: Jorge_Stanbury

Questions on the flags on your picture:

I can see left from top:
- Manchukuo
- Mengkiang (2 flags: old and new)
- China (2 flags: old's five races under one union and ROC's white sun on blue sky)

right:
- Is it Laos?
- Philippines
- ??? maybe Xingjian or Indonesia?
- Burma
- ??? maybe Korea?

Missing:
- Kampuchea
- Vietnam
- Thailand


The flags are:

On the left:

Manchukuo
Mengkiang
Mongolian League
East Hebei Autonomous Council
Beijing puppet state

On the right:

Thailand
Philippines
Indonesia
Burma
Shanghai puppet state

I didn't include any others to keep things symmetric and to keep it looking too junky. The flag information I got from Flags of the World.

BTW, I like your signature quote very much!

Bill

RE: German and American submarine campaigns

Posted: Tue Jul 09, 2013 4:15 pm
by jeffk3510
A good read. Look in the notes and bibliography and you see that most of the information he got on Japanese shipping is from Mark Parillo's work on the Japanese Merchant Marine.

That's the same Mark Parillo that was my older brother's major professor/good friend and his wife's first boss at the Institute for Military History. He's part of the reason they met. Very cool!