SAM Battery Spawning Radars - Bug??
Posted: Sun Oct 06, 2013 3:15 pm
Decided to try a multi-axis attack on an SA-20 Bn for reasons I haven't yet proven one way or the other.
However, that aside, my first go was with F-16CM's and here is a report of the destroyed log from the Red side (the SA-20)
17:16:01 - SAM Bn (SA-20a Gargoyle [S-300PM-1]) damage report: Vehicle (Clam Shell [5N66]) has been destroyed!
17:16:01 - SAM Bn (SA-20a Gargoyle [S-300PM-1]) damage report: Vehicle (Clam Shell [5N66]) has been destroyed!
17:14:22 - SAM Bn (SA-20a Gargoyle [S-300PM-1]) damage report: Vehicle (Tombstone [30N6]) has been destroyed!
17:14:22 - SAM Bn (SA-20a Gargoyle [S-300PM-1]) damage report: Vehicle (Tombstone [30N6]) has been destroyed!
17:14:19 - SAM Bn (SA-20a Gargoyle [S-300PM-1]) damage report: Vehicle (Tombstone [30N6]) has been destroyed!
17:14:19 - SAM Bn (SA-20a Gargoyle [S-300PM-1]) damage report: Vehicle (Tombstone [30N6]) has been destroyed!
17:14:03 - SAM Bn (SA-20a Gargoyle [S-300PM-1]) damage report: Vehicle (Clam Shell [5N66]) has been destroyed!
17:13:59 - SAM Bn (SA-20a Gargoyle [S-300PM-1]) damage report: Vehicle (Clam Shell [5N66]) has been destroyed!
17:10:13 - SAM Bn (SA-20a Gargoyle [S-300PM-1]) damage report: Vehicle (Tombstone [30N6]) has been destroyed!
17:10:13 - SAM Bn (SA-20a Gargoyle [S-300PM-1]) damage report: Vehicle (Tombstone [30N6]) has been destroyed!
17:10:09 - SAM Bn (SA-20a Gargoyle [S-300PM-1]) damage report: Vehicle (Clam Shell [5N66]) has been destroyed!
16:55:27 - SAM Bn (SA-20a Gargoyle [S-300PM-1]) damage report: Vehicle (Tombstone [30N6]) has been destroyed!
16:55:27 - SAM Bn (SA-20a Gargoyle [S-300PM-1]) damage report: Vehicle (Tombstone [30N6]) has been destroyed!
16:54:21 - SAM Bn (SA-20a Gargoyle [S-300PM-1]) damage report: Vehicle (Tombstone [30N6]) has been destroyed!
16:54:21 - SAM Bn (SA-20a Gargoyle [S-300PM-1]) damage report: Vehicle (Tombstone [30N6]) has been destroyed!
16:53:21 - SAM Bn (SA-20a Gargoyle [S-300PM-1]) damage report: Vehicle (Tombstone [30N6]) has been destroyed!
16:53:21 - SAM Bn (SA-20a Gargoyle [S-300PM-1]) damage report: Vehicle (Tombstone [30N6]) has been destroyed!
16:53:17 - SAM Bn (SA-20a Gargoyle [S-300PM-1]) damage report: Vehicle (Clam Shell [5N66]) has been destroyed!
16:53:17 - SAM Bn (SA-20a Gargoyle [S-300PM-1]) damage report: Vehicle (Clam Shell [5N66]) has been destroyed!
16:50:23 - SAM Bn (SA-20a Gargoyle [S-300PM-1]) damage report: Vehicle (Clam Shell [5N66]) has been destroyed!
16:50:23 - SAM Bn (SA-20a Gargoyle [S-300PM-1]) damage report: Vehicle (Tombstone [30N6]) has been destroyed!
16:50:23 - SAM Bn (SA-20a Gargoyle [S-300PM-1]) damage report: SA-16 Gimlet [9K310 Igla-1] MANPADS has been destroyed!
16:50:23 - SAM Bn (SA-20a Gargoyle [S-300PM-1]) damage report: SA-16 Gimlet [9K310 Igla-1] MANPADS has been destroyed!
16:50:23 - SAM Bn (SA-20a Gargoyle [S-300PM-1]) damage report: SA-16 Gimlet [9K310 Igla-1] MANPADS has been destroyed!
16:50:23 - SAM Bn (SA-20a Gargoyle [S-300PM-1]) damage report: SA-20a Gargoyle [5P85SE] TEL has been destroyed!
16:50:23 - SAM Bn (SA-20a Gargoyle [S-300PM-1]) damage report: SA-20a Gargoyle [5P85SE] TEL has been destroyed!
16:50:23 - SAM Bn (SA-20a Gargoyle [S-300PM-1]) damage report: SA-20a Gargoyle [5P85SE] TEL has been destroyed!
16:50:23 - SAM Bn (SA-20a Gargoyle [S-300PM-1]) damage report: Vehicle (Clam Shell [5N66]) has been destroyed!
So that's 9 Clam Shell and 13 Tombstone
Now I could accept that maybe when the reports are seconds apart, then 2 or more HARMs have taken the same radar, but look at the times, there are two separate attacks there.
I also believe that the sensor and its vehicle are being counted separately. So Wave 1 HARM's take the Vehicle and Wave 2 takes the sensor. I say it this way round because if it is the other way what did the HARM home to? Of course, above they all say vehicle, so who knows... but it's not right.
However, that aside, my first go was with F-16CM's and here is a report of the destroyed log from the Red side (the SA-20)
17:16:01 - SAM Bn (SA-20a Gargoyle [S-300PM-1]) damage report: Vehicle (Clam Shell [5N66]) has been destroyed!
17:16:01 - SAM Bn (SA-20a Gargoyle [S-300PM-1]) damage report: Vehicle (Clam Shell [5N66]) has been destroyed!
17:14:22 - SAM Bn (SA-20a Gargoyle [S-300PM-1]) damage report: Vehicle (Tombstone [30N6]) has been destroyed!
17:14:22 - SAM Bn (SA-20a Gargoyle [S-300PM-1]) damage report: Vehicle (Tombstone [30N6]) has been destroyed!
17:14:19 - SAM Bn (SA-20a Gargoyle [S-300PM-1]) damage report: Vehicle (Tombstone [30N6]) has been destroyed!
17:14:19 - SAM Bn (SA-20a Gargoyle [S-300PM-1]) damage report: Vehicle (Tombstone [30N6]) has been destroyed!
17:14:03 - SAM Bn (SA-20a Gargoyle [S-300PM-1]) damage report: Vehicle (Clam Shell [5N66]) has been destroyed!
17:13:59 - SAM Bn (SA-20a Gargoyle [S-300PM-1]) damage report: Vehicle (Clam Shell [5N66]) has been destroyed!
17:10:13 - SAM Bn (SA-20a Gargoyle [S-300PM-1]) damage report: Vehicle (Tombstone [30N6]) has been destroyed!
17:10:13 - SAM Bn (SA-20a Gargoyle [S-300PM-1]) damage report: Vehicle (Tombstone [30N6]) has been destroyed!
17:10:09 - SAM Bn (SA-20a Gargoyle [S-300PM-1]) damage report: Vehicle (Clam Shell [5N66]) has been destroyed!
16:55:27 - SAM Bn (SA-20a Gargoyle [S-300PM-1]) damage report: Vehicle (Tombstone [30N6]) has been destroyed!
16:55:27 - SAM Bn (SA-20a Gargoyle [S-300PM-1]) damage report: Vehicle (Tombstone [30N6]) has been destroyed!
16:54:21 - SAM Bn (SA-20a Gargoyle [S-300PM-1]) damage report: Vehicle (Tombstone [30N6]) has been destroyed!
16:54:21 - SAM Bn (SA-20a Gargoyle [S-300PM-1]) damage report: Vehicle (Tombstone [30N6]) has been destroyed!
16:53:21 - SAM Bn (SA-20a Gargoyle [S-300PM-1]) damage report: Vehicle (Tombstone [30N6]) has been destroyed!
16:53:21 - SAM Bn (SA-20a Gargoyle [S-300PM-1]) damage report: Vehicle (Tombstone [30N6]) has been destroyed!
16:53:17 - SAM Bn (SA-20a Gargoyle [S-300PM-1]) damage report: Vehicle (Clam Shell [5N66]) has been destroyed!
16:53:17 - SAM Bn (SA-20a Gargoyle [S-300PM-1]) damage report: Vehicle (Clam Shell [5N66]) has been destroyed!
16:50:23 - SAM Bn (SA-20a Gargoyle [S-300PM-1]) damage report: Vehicle (Clam Shell [5N66]) has been destroyed!
16:50:23 - SAM Bn (SA-20a Gargoyle [S-300PM-1]) damage report: Vehicle (Tombstone [30N6]) has been destroyed!
16:50:23 - SAM Bn (SA-20a Gargoyle [S-300PM-1]) damage report: SA-16 Gimlet [9K310 Igla-1] MANPADS has been destroyed!
16:50:23 - SAM Bn (SA-20a Gargoyle [S-300PM-1]) damage report: SA-16 Gimlet [9K310 Igla-1] MANPADS has been destroyed!
16:50:23 - SAM Bn (SA-20a Gargoyle [S-300PM-1]) damage report: SA-16 Gimlet [9K310 Igla-1] MANPADS has been destroyed!
16:50:23 - SAM Bn (SA-20a Gargoyle [S-300PM-1]) damage report: SA-20a Gargoyle [5P85SE] TEL has been destroyed!
16:50:23 - SAM Bn (SA-20a Gargoyle [S-300PM-1]) damage report: SA-20a Gargoyle [5P85SE] TEL has been destroyed!
16:50:23 - SAM Bn (SA-20a Gargoyle [S-300PM-1]) damage report: SA-20a Gargoyle [5P85SE] TEL has been destroyed!
16:50:23 - SAM Bn (SA-20a Gargoyle [S-300PM-1]) damage report: Vehicle (Clam Shell [5N66]) has been destroyed!
So that's 9 Clam Shell and 13 Tombstone
Now I could accept that maybe when the reports are seconds apart, then 2 or more HARMs have taken the same radar, but look at the times, there are two separate attacks there.
I also believe that the sensor and its vehicle are being counted separately. So Wave 1 HARM's take the Vehicle and Wave 2 takes the sensor. I say it this way round because if it is the other way what did the HARM home to? Of course, above they all say vehicle, so who knows... but it's not right.