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Transfer ammo on ships
Posted: Mon Oct 07, 2013 4:43 pm
by George Patton
How can I transfer ammo from ammo ships to combat ships?
How can I see which and how many ammo doeas an ammo ship has on board?
RE: Transfer ammo on ships
Posted: Mon Oct 07, 2013 5:51 pm
by Primarchx
The two ships need to UNREP together. When I did a minor test of this I had both ships in the same group, which didn't work. When I split them and told the ship that was low on stores to UNREP, it work.
RE: Transfer ammo on ships
Posted: Mon Oct 07, 2013 5:58 pm
by George Patton
Thanks. I'll try when I will be low on Sidewinder and bombs during Malvinas 1982.
But the ammo ship has a limited quantity on it or not?
RE: Transfer ammo on ships
Posted: Mon Oct 07, 2013 6:38 pm
by SSN754planker
Yes, the replen ships can run out of stores also.
RE: Transfer ammo on ships
Posted: Wed Oct 16, 2013 1:07 pm
by George Patton
ORIGINAL: Primarchx
The two ships need to UNREP together. When I did a minor test of this I had both ships in the same group, which didn't work. When I split them and told the ship that was low on stores to UNREP, it work.
Uhm...how can I do that?
RE: Transfer ammo on ships
Posted: Wed Oct 16, 2013 2:06 pm
by Primarchx
In my test I had the UNREP ship running on its' own and the ship requiring replentishment running on its' own (ie, neither in a group). I then told the ship needing supply to UNREP and it met up with the AOE on it's own and got fuel/weapons. There may be other ways of doing this, but this is what worked in my (limited) test.
ORIGINAL: George Patton
ORIGINAL: Primarchx
The two ships need to UNREP together. When I did a minor test of this I had both ships in the same group, which didn't work. When I split them and told the ship that was low on stores to UNREP, it work.
Uhm...how can I do that?
RE: Transfer ammo on ships
Posted: Wed Oct 16, 2013 3:27 pm
by Der Zeitgeist
ORIGINAL: George Patton
Thanks. I'll try when I will be low on Sidewinder and bombs during Malvinas 1982.
But the ammo ship has a limited quantity on it or not?
In this scenario it will probably not work at all, because only a few ships actually can replenish other units in the current DB3000. Most of them are placeholders right now.
RE: Transfer ammo on ships
Posted: Wed Oct 16, 2013 3:44 pm
by DoctorHaider
In this scenario it will probably not work at all, because only a few ships actually can replenish other units in the current DB3000. Most of them are placeholders right now.
Too sad. It's true. I wanted to replenish my british task force in the Falklands scenario too.
RE: Transfer ammo on ships
Posted: Wed Oct 16, 2013 3:51 pm
by Der Zeitgeist
ORIGINAL: DoctorHaider
In this scenario it will probably not work at all, because only a few ships actually can replenish other units in the current DB3000. Most of them are placeholders right now.
Too sad. It's true. I wanted to replenish my british task force in the Falklands scenario too.
I haven't checked all of them, but looking through the database viewer it's obvious that only the US replenishment ships are actually functional right now.
RE: Transfer ammo on ships
Posted: Wed Oct 16, 2013 4:01 pm
by Dimitris
ORIGINAL: DoctorHaider
In this scenario it will probably not work at all, because only a few ships actually can replenish other units in the current DB3000. Most of them are placeholders right now.
Too sad. It's true. I wanted to replenish my british task force in the Falklands scenario too.
I'm pretty certain that if you send your request to Rag and note that you need this for a current or near-future scenario, your request will receive very high priority.
RE: Transfer ammo on ships
Posted: Wed Oct 16, 2013 4:16 pm
by thewood1
Is it ever going to be a consideration to replenish from a port or shore facility?
RE: Transfer ammo on ships
Posted: Wed Oct 16, 2013 4:19 pm
by George Patton
ORIGINAL: Der Zeitgeist
I haven't checked all of them, but looking through the database viewer it's obvious that only the US replenishment ships are actually functional right now.
But this is because of lack of the program or what else?
RE: Transfer ammo on ships
Posted: Wed Oct 16, 2013 4:30 pm
by Der Zeitgeist
ORIGINAL: George Patton
ORIGINAL: Der Zeitgeist
I haven't checked all of them, but looking through the database viewer it's obvious that only the US replenishment ships are actually functional right now.
But this is because of lack of the program or what else?
There's a special option for ships that can be added in the database. It's called "refuel to port/starboard" and "replenish to port/starboard". This function is currently only implemented for US replenishment ships, as far as I can tell. It's not a bug, just an incomplete database.
RE: Transfer ammo on ships
Posted: Wed Oct 16, 2013 4:39 pm
by Der Zeitgeist
ORIGINAL: Sunburn
ORIGINAL: DoctorHaider
In this scenario it will probably not work at all, because only a few ships actually can replenish other units in the current DB3000. Most of them are placeholders right now.
Too sad. It's true. I wanted to replenish my british task force in the Falklands scenario too.
I'm pretty certain that if you send your request to Rag and note that you need this for a current or near-future scenario, your request will receive very high priority.
I don't want to seem disrespectful here, but as a customer who paid about 80 Dollars for your game, I don't really see it as our job to report these issues to your database developer, especially since this isn't some minor problem like the wrong radar or something.
Refueling and replenishment were features of CMANO that were advertised several times before release, and I didn't see any fine print that said "[currently only works for US ships]".
RE: Transfer ammo on ships
Posted: Wed Oct 16, 2013 4:40 pm
by George Patton
But will the database be completed so that all the replenishment ships can refuel?
RE: Transfer ammo on ships
Posted: Wed Oct 16, 2013 5:07 pm
by ComDev
Yes the database will be updated [8D]
What ships do you need first? I'll try to have an updated db out this week.
RE: Transfer ammo on ships
Posted: Wed Oct 16, 2013 6:02 pm
by Der Zeitgeist
ORIGINAL: emsoy
Yes the database will be updated [8D]
What ships do you need first? I'll try to have an updated db out this week.
Isn't there some way to do a full text search in the database on your system? Instead of just looking for every replenishment ship (there's probably hundreds) it might be easier to just search for "fleet oiler", "combat support ship", "munitions ship" and other similar terms, and simply add the basic refuel and/or replenishment capabilities. I mean it doesn't matter so much if the precise number of refueling lines isn't quite right yet, if the basic capability is at least added as a first step.
RE: Transfer ammo on ships
Posted: Wed Oct 16, 2013 6:19 pm
by Erik Rutins
Hi Der Zeitgeist,
Ragnar is just asking which are most important to you so that he can get those done first - it's a favor being offered, not asked. [8D]
The database on a game like this is pretty much just as complex as the game itself. It's an enormous job and unfortunately there are bound to be typos, accidental omissions and areas that still need work. It's not a static thing - it will continue to change and be updated with each update and also as new information is available to the team. Although the release version was already the most impressive I've seen, realistically it will probably never be perfect. Reports from customers are a great help in highlighting issues and priorities and WarfareSims is taking your feedback on board.
Regards,
- Erik
RE: Transfer ammo on ships
Posted: Wed Oct 16, 2013 6:53 pm
by smudge56
Can we replenish and refuel at ports?
RE: Transfer ammo on ships
Posted: Wed Oct 16, 2013 7:04 pm
by Primarchx
I was told this was implemented but couldn't make it happen in some simple case tests. Waiting for more complete instructions on this.
ORIGINAL: Blighty56
Can we replenish and refuel at ports?