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Bug? Italian production using saved BP

Posted: Wed Nov 27, 2013 5:48 pm
by robertl123456
The Italian have 5 BP saved and produces 4. Why can they not produce units worth 9 BP?
See attached file from the production phase.

RE: Bug? Italian production using saved BP

Posted: Wed Nov 27, 2013 6:01 pm
by brian brian
Are all the saved build points in the same hex? There are restrictions on spending saved build points in the rules:

In a later production step, you can remove those build points from the map and add them to your build point total. You may spend any number saved at your capital. No more than 1 saved build point may be consumed per turn from each other city, useable factory and port

RE: Bug? Italian production using saved BP

Posted: Wed Nov 27, 2013 6:06 pm
by Shannon V. OKeets
ORIGINAL: brian brian

Are all the saved build points in the same hex? There are restrictions on spending saved build points in the rules:

In a later production step, you can remove those build points from the map and add them to your build point total. You may spend any number saved at your capital. No more than 1 saved build point may be consumed per turn from each other city, useable factory and port
That would be my guess. The screenshot doesn't shed any light on the question because it doesn't show where the build points are saved.

RE: Bug? Italian production using saved BP

Posted: Wed Nov 27, 2013 6:08 pm
by robertl123456
They are in two cities. Regardless if they only were in one city, Italy should than have +1 BP to what they produce, right?

RE: Bug? Italian production using saved BP

Posted: Wed Nov 27, 2013 6:37 pm
by Shannon V. OKeets
ORIGINAL: robertl123456

They are in two cities. Regardless if they only were in one city, Italy should than have +1 BP to what they produce, right?
Yes. Actually +2 BP, one from each city.

Can you post a screenshot of the Italian Production, showing the BPs in the Resources list?

RE: Bug? Italian production using saved BP

Posted: Wed Nov 27, 2013 7:18 pm
by robertl123456
I needed to load a auto-saved game to get it back. When I click on the "Saved at start" (5 BP) this list becomes empty.

When I first encountered the problem, a list of the 5 BP where shown.

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RE: Bug? Italian production using saved BP

Posted: Wed Nov 27, 2013 7:44 pm
by robertl123456
I think there could be some other issues with saving BP as well. Just started a game to check. It seems that
if you do not use all BP in the production phase, you get the option to save them, which is ok. But in the frame
that opens up (see pic below) you can press save in a city and the available BP decreas by 1 but the saved BP does
not increase beyond 1 (not even in Berlin). It is not possible to collect the BP back either.

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RE: Bug? Italian production using saved BP

Posted: Thu Nov 28, 2013 3:55 am
by gautebirkeli
This is one of the more annoying bugs the game has. One can only store one BP or oil in each hex. That means the Free French can usually not save up enough build points to build a factory, or to build HQA DeGaulle. And the Russians will not be able to save enough oil in Leningrad or Sevastopol to hold out a siege.

RE: Bug? Italian production using saved BP

Posted: Thu Nov 28, 2013 1:37 pm
by lomyrin
This is a recently arrived bug. One of the netplay fixes seems to have caused this to occur. For quite a long time in the past saving multple oil or Build points in one city had been working correctly. My guess is that it will be fixed in the near future.