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ORIGINAL: Igbe

They did make it clear that there were some issues with netplay...

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Its also posted on the product page before you buy the product. I am not thrilled that it's taking so long to fix.

ORIGINAL: jzardos

Let's be real for a moment. Been trying to play NetPlay with friend (that I duped into buying MWiF), we can't even get to end of turn 1. Probably spent 20 hrs already on it. Many crashes, certain autosaves don't work (general ones worst luck), usually finally get one to reload for us. Most of our bugs have been documented, few have been fixed so far. New ones keep coming up..

So here's where I'm at

- very frustrated about sinking $100 into game that can't be played NetPlay. Not sure solitaire works better, but didn't buy game to play solitaire. I'm ok with waiting for AI, that's not my beef.

- have friend upset with me, because I told him it would be fun

- as far as bugs, some people are willing to do all the extra postings and be 'beta testers'. That's just not something I have time for. Will report stuff as I can and if not already reported. But didn't buy game to beta test it [:(]

- as much as I want to see MWiF be a big hit and a game changer for board games making into into the computer world, just feel this game was rushed when it didn't have to be rushed. Most of us have already been waiting 5-10 years, so what was another year to get it right? Don't ever think it's a good idea to release stuff to consumers when it's know that many bugs exist. Heck, I can't image beta testers didn't see the issues my friend and I found. Not like we did anything special or unusual. Too many normal track phases just didn't work.

- so what now? Very tempted to just shelf game until version 2.0 comes out. Not sure what other people's motivation is when purchasing a 'game', but for me it's about enjoyment and fun. I really believe MWiF will be plenty of hours of fun and re-playability, but it's just not there yet for me in its current state.

- I really feel bad for Steve and others that have worked so hard on this project. If they had just been given more resources and some more time before the release. Not their fault for the bad taste in people's mouths on this game's current short-comings. I blame Matrix for the pressure and any others that were responsible for forcing this game out when it's obvious it wasn't ready. Shame on you...

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NOTE: I do give MWiF and A+ for great documentation books and tutorials. Above and beyond anything I ever experienced in purchased game software.

ORIGINAL: jzardos

ORIGINAL: Igbe

They did make it clear that there were some issues with netplay...

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Its also posted on the product page before you buy the product. I am not thrilled that it's taking so long to fix.

Think you are fooling yourself if you believe some game stopper bugs don't appear in solitaire too. I did try and play some solitaire before I convinced my friend to play NetPlay. Did run into bugs and game crashes in solitaire .

So are you saying I'm the only one who has experienced bugs/crashes with playing MWiF playing solitaire? If so, not sure you're living in reality. Understand people fee loyalty to MWiF and don't want to see it tarnished, but IMO the release of MWiF was premature. Paradox did the same thing, on a much larger scale, with their release of HOI way back. That was so traumatic an experience for me, that to this date I will never buy another Paradox game.

Maybe several people here bought MWiF to play solitaire, but that's just not my thing. A part of the reason I play board/computer games is to be social. Although I have spend > 100 hrs playing WitE vs AI, but that's somewhat of an exception because WitE is the best computer war game ever released. It's AI is amazing too. I digress. Point is that I bought this game a month ago and I can't get through turn one on NetPlay. Guess I just didn't manage my expectations appropriately, which I will take some blame for.

Disclaimer: I have utmost respect for Steve and crew for have fortitude and persistence to make MWiF a reality, but I just can't play the game in it's current state. Very excited with NetPlay/game works as expected.

ORIGINAL: jzardos

warspite1,

I'm sorry if my post(s) were perceived as criticizing the beta-testers. That not how I see it at all. In fact I give the beta-testers credit for their time sacrifices in testing this massive project. I'm disappointed and a little angered that the actual release of this product was not delayed and put through a few more cycles of testing. The testers are not the ones (in this case) that decided on the release date of Nov 8.

But what is done is done, can't take back the release that already happened. So I guess no point in crying over split milk. Just wanted to state my case and how I felt about MWiF, that is part of the purpose of this forum.

What is most important now is for Matrix and the developers to trying and correct the issues as prompt as possible. At the same time, which is not always easy, making sure regression bugs don't start to appear.

ORIGINAL: paulderynck

Maybe Shannon by himself could have done a better job, but unfortunately, he was already committed to MWiF, a slightly more complicated undertaking. [;)]

ORIGINAL: paulderynck

For all anyone knows, the release date could have been a contractual obligation. For all anyone knows, the mandatory physical component could have been a contractual obligation.

These forums can fulfill many purposes, but they have no ability to examine the contractual agreements between the various parties that created the ability for WiF to become a computer implemented game in the first place.