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Ardennes 1944 revisited

Posted: Mon Dec 16, 2013 11:49 am
by r6kunz
In remembrance of the 16 Dec German Ardennes Offensive, here is the latest version of Ardennes 1944.

https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/632 ... 201944.zip

Designed using TOAW 3.4 and Opart 3XBb. Changes in v3.8 include: entrenchment rate to 33%, Attrition Divider to 28; MRPB=4. and a number of minor map, TOE and OB changes aimed at giving the Germans, with careful planning and a little luck, the ability to reach their historic objectives.

An interesting design issue is how to handicap the Allied side. Using TOAW parameters that allow the Germans to just reach their historic objectives near the Meuse by 24 Dec, the PO Allied January Counteroffensive is able push to the Germans back over their start line by 15 Jan. Historically, however, the 15 Jan forward edge of battle only ran through HOUFFALIZE and Patton was not able to bag the German army. I have tinkered with Allied supply, shock, replacement, bias to handicap the Allies in January with varying degrees of success. Results of playtest by others, and suggestions would be appreciated.

Dupuy, in his book Hitler's Last Gamble, one of my primary sources, used the Ardennes as data for a computerized model of combat performance.

RE: Ardennes 1944 revisited

Posted: Mon Dec 16, 2013 1:31 pm
by fulcrum90
Oppss...one of my favourite scenarios!! Good present for Xmas!
I need to play this version. Thanks for the update Kunz
Saludos

RE: Ardennes 1944 revisited

Posted: Mon Dec 16, 2013 1:38 pm
by Oberst_Klink
Smashing Doc!

I got plenty of time to test it out, perhaps I find even a PBEM mate (fulcrum90 perhaps) and give you some feedback. I am still snowed in up the mountains of WV. atm and had my taste of snow for the next months to come :)

Klink, Oberst

RE: Ardennes 1944 revisited

Posted: Mon Dec 16, 2013 2:06 pm
by fulcrum90
I can´t resist your offer, Oberst_Klink...let´s play this.. Mirror game??

RE: Ardennes 1944 revisited

Posted: Mon Dec 16, 2013 2:26 pm
by Oberst_Klink
ORIGINAL: fulcrum90

I can´t resist your offer, Oberst_Klink...let´s play this.. Mirror game??
Companiero!

Let's just do a test, aye? Which side; I am still finalizing Kharkov '43 as we speak and have a few other articles to write about some war-games and Co-Sim. I am sure you read my TOAW III piece at Punta de Lanza, si?

Klink, Oberst
oberst.w.klink(at)gmail.com

RE: Ardennes 1944 revisited

Posted: Mon Dec 16, 2013 2:37 pm
by fulcrum90
ORIGINAL: Oberst_Klink

ORIGINAL: fulcrum90

I can´t resist your offer, Oberst_Klink...let´s play this.. Mirror game??
Companiero!

Let's just do a test, aye? Which side; I am still finalizing Kharkov '43 as we speak and have a few other articles to write about some war-games and Co-Sim. I am sure you read my TOAW III piece at Punta de Lanza, si?

Klink, Oberst
oberst.w.klink(at)gmail.com

Well....let´s do a test.. I would like check the german offensive...If you agree I can send the first turn soon...I´m testing with PO and looks good...
Did you writte something at Punta de Lanza??..I don´t visit it too much but I must to read it..
I hope see Kharkov '43 released soon.Another present for XMAS?? [:)]

Saludos

RE: Ardennes 1944 revisited

Posted: Mon Dec 16, 2013 3:17 pm
by Oberst_Klink
ORIGINAL: fulcrum90

ORIGINAL: Oberst_Klink

ORIGINAL: fulcrum90

I can´t resist your offer, Oberst_Klink...let´s play this.. Mirror game??
Companiero!

Let's just do a test, aye? Which side; I am still finalizing Kharkov '43 as we speak and have a few other articles to write about some war-games and Co-Sim. I am sure you read my TOAW III piece at Punta de Lanza, si?

Klink, Oberst
oberst.w.klink(at)gmail.com

Well....let´s do a test.. I would like check the german offensive...If you agree I can send the first turn soon...I´m testing with PO and looks good...
Did you writte something at Punta de Lanza??..I don´t visit it too much but I must to read it..
I hope see Kharkov '43 released soon.Another present for XMAS?? [:)]

Saludos
OK, I am taking care of the Allies, companiero! Send me the 1st turn, si?

And no, the article at PDL was translated by our companiero Capitan Piluso ->

www.puntadelanza.net/Foro/phpBB3/viewto ... 37&t=15569

Klink, Oberst

RE: Ardennes 1944 revisited

Posted: Mon Dec 16, 2013 4:13 pm
by fulcrum90
Yes, I´ll take german command. Well, I´ve read your article in the english version :)at Wargamer. It´s a good review of the game..good stuff..


RE: Ardennes 1944 revisited

Posted: Mon Dec 16, 2013 4:33 pm
by InuharikoMu
Hello and thanks for the Update,

Unfortunately Version 3.4.0.202 does not Find (or see) the Scenario in the Dir.

What did i Wrong i copied the 3 Files into the WW2 West Scenario and a New created Dir but TOAW3 did not see the Scenario.

Please Help and Advise

Best Regards from sunny Germany

RE: Ardennes 1944 revisited

Posted: Mon Dec 16, 2013 5:59 pm
by fulcrum90
ORIGINAL: Richtschnur

Hello and thanks for the Update,

Unfortunately Version 3.4.0.202 does not Find (or see) the Scenario in the Dir.

What did i Wrong i copied the 3 Files into the WW2 West Scenario and a New created Dir but TOAW3 did not see the Scenario.

Please Help and Advise

Best Regards from sunny Germany
yes, it´s true...you need to use Opart 3XBb to play this version...

RE: Ardennes 1944 revisited

Posted: Tue Dec 17, 2013 7:12 am
by InuharikoMu
DOH [&o]

I Googled Opart 3XBb and have found my mistake.

Thanks for the push in the right Direction.

RE: Ardennes 1944 revisited

Posted: Sun Dec 22, 2013 7:46 am
by fulcrum90
HPT KUNZ, great scenario...With 8 turns played I can say it´s very funny. Games is been very fluid and challenging. Good idea to put 33% of entrenchment rate. Perhaps you could apply this rate to your Road to Moscow serie. Btw, germans have seized Bastogne. Wainting for Oberst_Klink´s reply [;)]

RE: Ardennes 1944 revisited

Posted: Sun Dec 22, 2013 10:19 am
by Oberst_Klink
Nein! I haven't played the turn yet! What a spoiler, companiero! Anyway, first things first, work, wargaming articles, food and while writing listening to the 2.BL and 1.BL.

Klink, Oberst