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So is that Game in Truly Final Form yet?
Posted: Fri Dec 27, 2013 1:05 am
by Anthropoid
[:D] I kid, somewhat. What has it been out now? 3 years?
I bought it at full price shortly after it was released and have the beautiful book and CD. I think I even installed it and played a bit shortly after it was released, but just didn't get into at the time.
The idea of trying to get into it has been crossing my mind, but I think I'd want to do a PBEM.
So what is the overall status of WiTP AE?
RE: So is that Game in Truly Final Form yet?
Posted: Fri Dec 27, 2013 4:11 am
by Chris21wen
ORIGINAL: Anthropoid
[:D] I kid, somewhat. What has it been out now? 3 years?
I bought it at full price shortly after it was released and have the beautiful book and CD. I think I even installed it and played a bit shortly after it was released, but just didn't get into at the time.
The idea of trying to get into it has been crossing my mind, but I think I'd want to do a PBEM.
So what is the overall status of WiTP AE?
Unofficially it is still being tweeked for the few bugs that keep cropping up and game play changes that enhance the games playability but both are only minor thing in the overall scheme.
There is nothing to stop you playing the game and hasn't been since in inception. Patches can mostly be applied without the need to restart a game although those to data changes usually only take affect when a game starts.
One piece of advise. Play, it's a wonderful game[;)]
RE: So is that Game in Truly Final Form yet?
Posted: Fri Dec 27, 2013 8:18 am
by tocaff
It's like a fine wine, improving with age. Go for it.
RE: So is that Game in Truly Final Form yet?
Posted: Fri Dec 27, 2013 11:02 am
by dr.hal
Perfection is much like always halving the distance to a point, you never reach it, but you can sure come close. This game is much like that... it will be a work in progress for a long time, but always getting closer to perfection. We have the developers and on going explorers to thank for that. They keep adding refinements and alternatives that take the game in new directions according to taste (the DaBabes site is a great example). Definitely worth picking back up.
RE: So is that Game in Truly Final Form yet?
Posted: Fri Dec 27, 2013 1:22 pm
by kaleun
No question. Play, it is so addictive.
RE: So is that Game in Truly Final Form yet?
Posted: Fri Dec 27, 2013 1:37 pm
by crsutton
I sort of feel sorry for you. You have missed three years of fun..[;)] By all means find a reliable pbemail opponent and start a game.
RE: So is that Game in Truly Final Form yet?
Posted: Fri Dec 27, 2013 2:46 pm
by Anthropoid
Well, I've kept busy with other gaming habits. Went through an EVE Online phase for about two years. Just such a bitter and wicked community.
Main thing that always slightly turned me off about WiTP was that it is so historical. This is odd because I generally love historical games. I actually found myself more drawn to War Plan Orange, simply because it was very historical 'framework' but with a considerable 'what if' alternate history feel to it. Not quite a 'sandbox' like an EU game, but moreso than WiTP.
I want WiTP AE + (at least) an EU4-esque social/political dynamics + a Scourge of War tactical battles. (I know I don't want much).
The game would cover the EU + Vicky timeline and even up to 1950s. An accurate full Earth map similar to what they use in the Supreme Ruler series (20-mile hexes if I recall) would be good enough. But every hex should have a set of semi-random battle maps (ala Scourge).
I know I don't very high expections [:D]
RE: So is that Game in Truly Final Form yet?
Posted: Fri Dec 27, 2013 3:52 pm
by pmelheck1
Have you thought about Mods like RA or Ironbabes? These might be more what your looking for. I don't think you will ever find a even balance like C&C here if that's what your ultimately after. WITP is more historical based rather than same units both side with only the names changed perhaps graphics changes to give perfect balance. If you looking for more balance maybe a RTS with a pacific based mod? I know Empire Earth did a couple of scenarios with a pacific or world map.
RE: So is that Game in Truly Final Form yet?
Posted: Fri Dec 27, 2013 4:38 pm
by Symon
ORIGINAL: Anthropoid
Well, I've kept busy with other gaming habits. Went through an EVE Online phase for about two years. Just such a bitter and wicked community.
Main thing that always slightly turned me off about WiTP was that it is so historical. This is odd because I generally love historical games. I actually found myself more drawn to War Plan Orange, simply because it was very historical 'framework' but with a considerable 'what if' alternate history feel to it. Not quite a 'sandbox' like an EU game, but moreso than WiTP.
I want WiTP AE + (at least) an EU4-esque social/political dynamics + a Scourge of War tactical battles. (I know I don't want much).
The game would cover the EU + Vicky timeline and even up to 1950s. An accurate full Earth map similar to what they use in the Supreme Ruler series (20-mile hexes if I recall) would be good enough. But every hex should have a set of semi-random battle maps (ala Scourge).
I know I don't very high expections [:D]
I think you will have a very short and unfortable experience with WiTP AE.
RE: So is that Game in Truly Final Form yet?
Posted: Mon Mar 09, 2015 1:25 pm
by Anthropoid
Okay, I got her reinstalled!
Apart from the "Check for Updates," which did an auto-connect to Slitertrix's servers and updated it, is there any other 'unofficial' patch or anything I should consider if I just want to play it unmodded against a Very Hard Japanese AI for a few years (i.e., a few years in game [:'(]).
Think I will play that alt hist Grand Campaign I saw up there 2nd in the list, Hokku Machu Picchu or some such? Something about Japanese being better prepared for the war and having some surprises . . . sounds like a delightful way to relearn the intricacies of the WiTP system [:D]
RE: So is that Game in Truly Final Form yet?
Posted: Mon Mar 09, 2015 1:43 pm
by blueatoll
I've been playing a single v. AI game for over 4 years, 900+ turns.
My 19 year old son groans when I tell him about my progress in this game. He calls it War in the Pacific - Accountants' Edition.
Trying to explain the intricacies of the logistics war (which I like) and pilot management (which I am not a fan of) just makes him roll his eyes and ask why I would ever bother.
Old Grognards never die...we just eventually go electronic.
RE: So is that Game in Truly Final Form yet?
Posted: Mon Mar 09, 2015 2:47 pm
by Yaab
-But, Dad, there is no avgas! And your troops eat hamburgers from refineries!
RE: So is that Game in Truly Final Form yet?
Posted: Mon Mar 09, 2015 2:51 pm
by rockmedic109
ORIGINAL: Yaab
-But, Dad, there is no avgas! And your troops eat hamburgers from refineries!
Feeding the troops McDonald's I see....
RE: So is that Game in Truly Final Form yet?
Posted: Mon Mar 09, 2015 2:54 pm
by rockmedic109
ORIGINAL: blueatoll
I've been playing a single v. AI game for over 4 years, 900+ turns.
My 19 year old son groans when I tell him about my progress in this game. He calls it War in the Pacific - Accountants' Edition.
Trying to explain the intricacies of the logistics war (which I like) and pilot management (which I am not a fan of) just makes him roll his eyes and ask why I would ever bother.
Old Grognards never die...we just eventually go electronic.
Accountant's Edition.....[:D][:D][:D]
RE: So is that Game in Truly Final Form yet?
Posted: Mon Mar 09, 2015 2:58 pm
by Mundy
Hey 'Poid!
Just go here to grab the beta patch.
http://www.matrixgames.com/forums/tm.asp?m=3185062
It's perfectly stable and probably has some more features than the "official" patch.
RE: So is that Game in Truly Final Form yet?
Posted: Mon Mar 09, 2015 4:13 pm
by Symon
ORIGINAL: Anthropoid
[:D] I kid, somewhat. What has it been out now? 3 years?
I bought it at full price shortly after it was released and have the beautiful book and CD. I think I even installed it and played a bit shortly after it was released, but just didn't get into at the time.
The idea of trying to get into it has been crossing my mind, but I think I'd want to do a PBEM.
So what is the overall status of WiTP AE?
Beyond your wildest imagination. You were here when we introduced the Title, and nothing much has changed. There have been some data and exe tweaks to make some things more realistic and keep the 'weenies' under control, but that's about it. The standard game is pretty stable, and I generally use michaelm's betas.
Since coming back recently, you will get a ton of gamey; you must do this, you must do that, you must put your winkie into the brown place. Please take those posts in a manner that is expected.
Ciao. JWE
RE: So is that Game in Truly Final Form yet?
Posted: Mon Mar 09, 2015 5:00 pm
by Anthropoid
ORIGINAL: Symon
ORIGINAL: Anthropoid
[:D] I kid, somewhat. What has it been out now? 3 years?
I bought it at full price shortly after it was released and have the beautiful book and CD. I think I even installed it and played a bit shortly after it was released, but just didn't get into at the time.
The idea of trying to get into it has been crossing my mind, but I think I'd want to do a PBEM.
So what is the overall status of WiTP AE?
Beyond your wildest imagination. You were here when we introduced the Title, and nothing much has changed.
Well THAT is just a bit disappointing! Still no sharks with lasers attached to their heads!?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Bh7bYNAHXxw
Sweet! Thank you Mundy. Installed and ready to RUUUMMMMBBBEEELLLLLL
RE: So is that Game in Truly Final Form yet?
Posted: Mon Mar 09, 2015 6:03 pm
by wdolson
You can always make a mod...
Bill
RE: So is that Game in Truly Final Form yet?
Posted: Tue Mar 10, 2015 3:19 am
by Reg
ORIGINAL: Anthropoid
Sweet! Thank you Mundy. Installed and ready to RUUUMMMMBBBEEELLLLLL
I hope you are downloading the Art mods..... [:-]
(No effect on game play but they is so pretty.........) [:)]
Halsey's AE WITP Land/Air Artwork:
https://sites.google.com/site/aewitplandairartwork/
WitP-AE Topo Map Project (look at
post 109 for links) - by Chemkid:
http://www.matrixgames.com/forums/tm.asp?m=3599038
Don't say we don't look after you... [:D]
RE: So is that Game in Truly Final Form yet?
Posted: Tue Mar 10, 2015 5:08 am
by Chris21wen
ORIGINAL: Symon
ORIGINAL: Anthropoid
[:D] I kid, somewhat. What has it been out now? 3 years?
I bought it at full price shortly after it was released and have the beautiful book and CD. I think I even installed it and played a bit shortly after it was released, but just didn't get into at the time.
The idea of trying to get into it has been crossing my mind, but I think I'd want to do a PBEM.
So what is the overall status of WiTP AE?
Beyond your wildest imagination. You were here when we introduced the Title, and nothing much has changed. There have been some data and exe tweaks to make some things more realistic and keep the 'weenies' under control, but that's about it. The standard game is pretty stable, and I generally use michaelm's betas.
Since coming back recently, you will get a ton of gamey; you must do this, you must do that, you must put your winkie into the brown place. Please take those posts in a manner that is expected.
Ciao. JWE
You don't have to do anything you don't want to do. Much of the 'gamey stuff' as he calls it is an attempt to make the game more historical or realistic. It's a game not a simulator.