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Europe Aflame - any thoughts on setup etc?
Posted: Tue Dec 31, 2013 3:05 pm
by Martin_Goliath
Happy New Year to you all!
I just finished a game of EA (my first): 351 turns in 3½ years, after which I as Axis faced a significant defeat. But that's another story (plan to do an after action review at some point).
As life without EA seems a bit empty, we plan to start it anew, but are a bit at a loss when it comes to the game setup nowadays. Before going ahead, any suggestions from you are much appreciated.
(1) Which exe to use?
Would it be better to use the unofficial patched exe, rather than 3.4? Or wait out 3.5?
Our previous game was started in 3.2, and we did not impose any restrictions concerning Fortified + Ignore Losses deployment. After upgrading to 3.4, we carried on without restriciting F+IL, which made offensive operations quite costly. When we belatedly started a mirror game (3.4 from the beginning), the offensive in the early years seemed impossible (at least for our TOAW skills), so we abandoned that game after almost 100 turns with the French firmly in possession of Paris.
(2) Which scenario version to use?
I know there is a EA 2012 version around. Then there is the version Mark Stevens have uploaded to GameSquad (EA TOAW III (c)), which seems to be the one coming with the game. Which is preferrable?
(3) Which game option settings?
Particularly the flanking, turn order and supply?
(4) Which house rules (in addition to the ones suggested in the breifing)?
I suppose this depends on some of the choices above.
Thanks in advance for sharing your views!
Best wishes
Martin
RE: Europe Aflame - any thoughts on setup etc?
Posted: Tue Dec 31, 2013 4:00 pm
by Oberst_Klink
ORIGINAL: MarGol
Happy New Year to you all!
I just finished a game of EA (my first): 351 turns in 3½ years, after which I as Axis faced a significant defeat. But that's another story (plan to do an after action review at some point).
As life without EA seems a bit empty, we plan to start it anew, but are a bit at a loss when it comes to the game setup nowadays. Before going ahead, any suggestions from you are much appreciated.
(1) Which exe to use?
Would it be better to use the unofficial patched exe, rather than 3.4? Or wait out 3.5?
Our previous game was started in 3.2, and we did not impose any restrictions concerning Fortified + Ignore Losses deployment. After upgrading to 3.4, we carried on without restriciting F+IL, which made offensive operations quite costly. When we belatedly started a mirror game (3.4 from the beginning), the offensive in the early years seemed impossible (at least for our TOAW skills), so we abandoned that game after almost 100 turns with the French firmly in possession of Paris.
(2) Which scenario version to use?
I know there is a EA 2012 version around. Then there is the version Mark Stevens have uploaded to GameSquad (EA TOAW III (c)), which seems to be the one coming with the game. Which is preferrable?
(3) Which game option settings?
Particularly the flanking, turn order and supply?
(4) Which house rules (in addition to the ones suggested in the breifing)?
I suppose this depends on some of the choices above.
Thanks in advance for sharing your views!
Best wishes
Martin
Martin, Alter Schwede! You and Rob were supposed to test the first 18 turns of Kharkov '43 with the 3XBb.exe
What's up and how are the Lotta Svärd birds?
Klink, Oberst
RE: Europe Aflame - any thoughts on setup etc?
Posted: Tue Dec 31, 2013 6:01 pm
by Martin_Goliath
Hi there Klaus!
Well, Kharkow vs Rob never came about, but I played it with the AA patch against the PO (didn't I report back to you? Playing as Stavka I remember taking Kharkov on schedule while barely holding in the south. Seemed to work excellently).
Any thoughts re EA?
Hope you have a nice stay in the US.
Cheers
Martin
RE: Europe Aflame - any thoughts on setup etc?
Posted: Tue Dec 31, 2013 9:13 pm
by Falcon1
Somebody please make a PO version of EA!
RE: Europe Aflame - any thoughts on setup etc?
Posted: Wed Jan 01, 2014 8:53 am
by shunwick
ORIGINAL: Falcon1
Somebody please make a PO version of EA!
Falcon1,
Sadly not possible. The scenario is way too strategically complex for the AI to handle. Plus, the formation structure is most certainly not PO friendly.
There are some PO alternatives to EA though if you do not wish to PBEM.
Happy New Year!
Best wishes,
Steve
RE: Europe Aflame - any thoughts on setup etc?
Posted: Wed Jan 01, 2014 10:59 am
by Falcon1
I suspected as much. I've started on the Road to Moscow scenarios and I'm leaning towards the Vietnam series next. Then I'll check your database for a good next choice. I was hoping for a large scale European theater scenario. I doubt that I'll ever PBEM but who knows, right?
RE: Europe Aflame - any thoughts on setup etc?
Posted: Sat Feb 01, 2014 6:51 pm
by tcarusil
I too have been playing the Road to Moscow scenarios. Currently on "At the Gates" and struggling mightily. May try Sicily to Brenner Pass based on Mr. Fulkerson's AARs.
TomC
ORIGINAL: Falcon1
I suspected as much. I've started on the Road to Moscow scenarios and I'm leaning towards the Vietnam series next. Then I'll check your database for a good next choice. I was hoping for a large scale European theater scenario. I doubt that I'll ever PBEM but who knows, right?