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Morale Checks for Armor targeted by Small Arms?
Posted: Tue Feb 18, 2014 7:10 pm
by KenPortner
Does anyone else think it's a bit too easy to shake an AFV with small arms fire? Discuss!
RE: Morale Checks for Armor targeted by Small Arms?
Posted: Tue Feb 18, 2014 7:33 pm
by baloo7777
Uh...after I learned (the hard way) that a soviet squad with mg could shake my unbuttoned PzIV...I've been buttoning up. Playing as the russian, I did shake a german AI tank with that soviet antitank rifle once...but nothing unusual and seemed possible to me. I am not an expert on infantry weapons vs tanks though, so just giving my experience so far.
RE: Morale Checks for Armor targeted by Small Arms?
Posted: Tue Feb 18, 2014 8:19 pm
by KenPortner
Should have clarified that I'm not referring to an unbuttoned AFV. I'm just wondering whether there shouldn't be some minimum volume of fire to be sufficient to scare off a tank.
RE: Morale Checks for Armor targeted by Small Arms?
Posted: Tue Feb 18, 2014 8:26 pm
by meskary
Getting shaken is one thing....6 turns to rally even after moving away from the enemy! Stupid dice...
RE: Morale Checks for Armor targeted by Small Arms?
Posted: Tue Feb 18, 2014 8:27 pm
by madDdog67
Hmmm...I didn't think it was possible to shake a buttoned up/non open top AFV with small arms fire. I know I've seen a message saying something along the lines of "you can't hurt a tank with friggin' small arms fire" or something like that

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RE: Morale Checks for Armor targeted by Small Arms?
Posted: Tue Feb 18, 2014 8:47 pm
by Barthheart
You can't shake a tank with small arms fire if it's buttoned up. Yours can shake a tank with an anti-tank rifle.
**EDIT to fix omission of "buttoned up"
RE: Morale Checks for Armor targeted by Small Arms?
Posted: Tue Feb 18, 2014 10:54 pm
by KenPortner
ORIGINAL: Barthheart
You can't shake a tank with small arms fire. Yours can shake a tank with an anti-tank rifle.
Are you sure? I'd swear I've seen them shaken by rifle fire.
RE: Morale Checks for Armor targeted by Small Arms?
Posted: Tue Feb 18, 2014 11:33 pm
by meskary
Nope- LT Smirnoff-wounded with a DP-28 has shaken my STUG...second turn not being able to rally. But I was not buttoned up...
RE: Morale Checks for Armor targeted by Small Arms?
Posted: Wed Feb 19, 2014 12:05 am
by Barthheart
ORIGINAL: Portner
ORIGINAL: Barthheart
You can't shake a tank with small arms fire. Yours can shake a tank with an anti-tank rifle.
Are you sure? I'd swear I've seen them shaken by rifle fire.
Only if it's is not buttoned up.
RE: Morale Checks for Armor targeted by Small Arms?
Posted: Wed Feb 19, 2014 12:06 am
by Barthheart
ORIGINAL: meskary
Nope- LT Smirnoff-wounded with a DP-28 has shaken my STUG...second turn not being able to rally. But I was not buttoned up...
Correct, I left out the buttoned up part. Edited my post for clarity.
RE: Morale Checks for Armor targeted by Small Arms?
Posted: Wed Feb 19, 2014 12:13 am
by meskary
THAT is a cool thing about this game...tactics, stay buttoned up and trade the spotting, or risk getting shaken....
RE: Morale Checks for Armor targeted by Small Arms?
Posted: Wed Feb 19, 2014 1:20 pm
by markhwalker
And is you move adjacent to an enemy squad they can assault your tank by moving into your hex. Bad stuff.
BTW, you can increase your tank's chance to rally by moving into covering terrain.
RE: Morale Checks for Armor targeted by Small Arms?
Posted: Wed Feb 19, 2014 5:18 pm
by meskary
Didn't know that, thanks Mark!
RE: Morale Checks for Armor targeted by Small Arms?
Posted: Wed Feb 19, 2014 5:35 pm
by chemkid
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