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[FIXED B505] HARM vs Fulcrum anomaly
Posted: Fri Feb 21, 2014 9:16 pm
by VFA41_Lion
Build 490
Operation Brass Drum. Launched 4 charlie Hornets against the Char Bahar airbase SAM system. Selected a bunch of mobile contacts and the radar as targets for the AGM-88E and had 1 EA-18G about 100 nm south of the target area providing offensive ECM.
The HARMs launch with no emission lock and there happen to be a couple of MiG-29s in their path. Well... the HARMs lock onto the airborne radars (kind of expected that to happen) and miss. Well, they sure missed, but I think the simulation went a tad crazy trying to calculate it. Attachment 2 (in the next post) is the save a few seconds before the first HARMs start getting intercepted.
RE: HARM vs Fulcrum anomaly
Posted: Fri Feb 21, 2014 9:17 pm
by VFA41_Lion
teh save file
RE: HARM vs Fulcrum anomaly
Posted: Fri Feb 21, 2014 10:10 pm
by mikmykWS
Nice catch.
This might be something specific to the AGM-88E. We'll take a look.
Thanks!
Mike
RE: HARM vs Fulcrum anomaly
Posted: Sat Feb 22, 2014 2:42 am
by NakedWeasel
I think it would be kinda neat in my opinion for an AARGM to attack a aircraft, but I suppose it would be even more neat if it could do so successfully. As your Save game shows, six shot, six missed. Still, that's more satisfying than, "AGM-88E ran out of energy, self destructing." or, "AGM-88E malfunctioned." [:D]
RE: HARM vs Fulcrum anomaly
Posted: Sat Feb 22, 2014 9:02 am
by dillonkbase
Any reason a harm couldn't hit an mainstay or KA-31 helix? Something like this once came up in one of the eb-52 books by dale? brown?
RE: HARM vs Fulcrum anomaly
Posted: Sat Feb 22, 2014 9:21 am
by Sardaukar
I'd not see why not. After all, Soviet/Russian designed "Anti-AWACS" missiles like Vympel R-37 and KS-172 would hardly be more maneuverable than HARM (apart from being inertial guidance/active radar).
Fighters could be other thing, but I'd not see it difficult to modify AMRAAM "home-on-jam" capability for that too.
RE: HARM vs Fulcrum anomaly
Posted: Sat Feb 22, 2014 12:01 pm
by schroedi
In reality there was an incident during the gulf war when a HARM locked on the tailgunners radar of a B52 (i think a G version) and hit.
RE: HARM vs Fulcrum anomaly
Posted: Sat Feb 22, 2014 1:01 pm
by IWS
Yep. The B-52 survived, and was then nicknamed named "In HARM's way"

RE: HARM vs Fulcrum anomaly
Posted: Sun Feb 23, 2014 4:17 pm
by AndrewJ
There was also an American project called Brazo, in the early 1970s, which was intended to produce an air-to-air ARM based on the Sparrow. It performed successfully in initial testing, with a number of air-to-air intercepts, but the program was not pursued any further.
You can see the Wikipedia page for the Brazo
HERE.
RE: HARM vs Fulcrum anomaly
Posted: Tue Mar 25, 2014 5:02 am
by Dimitris
Fixed in Build 505.